MORE ENVIRO BALL SHIP FROM THIS GOV,MENT

[VENOM500]

Check this out....doing my bit to save the planet, get rid of my smelly 2ltr turbo D and get a nice smelling Corsa Van 1.2 Eco Flex 84mpg save the planet kinda van.....I guess I must have been dreaming to think I was going to save on my road tax. Classed as a LGV same tax class as my old st box!!!! £185 to Mr wankler Brown Arse thank you very much.
But hey....if I was to have bought a Corsa 3 door car and slung away the rear seats.....guess what.....£35 please sir!!
If I,m reading this correctly then my V10 8000 cc Monster that does around 19mpg is gonna cost me £5 more to tax than my little Eco friendly 1245cc 84mpg low emissions van!

SO MUCH FOR SAVING THE PLANET MR BROWN ARSE ITS ALL ABOUT GETTING MAX ££££ OUT OF BUSINESS USERS!

YES I AM SO F@~#ED OFF ABOUT THIS COMPLETE SHOVEL OF A GOVERNMENT, IT MAKES THE WHOLE , TAX/ PAY AS YOU POLUTE TO SAVE THE PLANET IDEA A COMPLETE LOAD OF bkS! THE LABOUR GOVERNEMENT....YOUR ALL A COMPLETE SHOVEL OF DOG POO! SAVING THE PLANET MY ARSE ITS ABOUT GRABBING BACK AS MUCH TAX OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE TO HELP HEAL YOUR F&*kING ECONOMY COCK UP! >>>> Rant over a little...........needed to get that off my chest..(Moderator if I,m going to get banded again please give me more than 60 seconds warning this time)

If I was Guy Fauks I,d bloody well blow up the whole lot of you .....tos~ers! Bloody job for the boys, that why they keep it in the family.
Bloody well bring back Starlin....he,d hang the lot of you. BTW I NEVER voted for you , I never will.

Bloody roads Tax.....Bloody save the Planet.......Its all Bloody ball st!

Please Please Please ANY Government SAVE THIS PLANET BY DOING THE RIGHT THING! NOT the things to save ya arse!

Bloody £185 for an ECO Van is f&*ing bks and you know it!






Feeling a tad better.. Government To$$ers.... You ain,t EVER going to get my Vote!!




Not all of us are fooled by your SAVE THE PLANET Cr*p!




If any Government Minister is reading this ....Pi$$ 0FF! Your a disgrace! Try doing something to improve this Country and not your own bloody bank balance.Your killing peoples belief in politics and if your not careful people will rather live under a Communist leader!I,d feel better being sharfted by one mean mother F;;;;er than a how bloody army of you with your family, freinds, uncles and aunts all joining the gravey train. Your all a bloody shower! Bloody Disgrace! This would be so funny if it wasn,t oh so true!
You,,Me,,, were all being done over..day after day, year after year, and there even get to you when you finally die! It Bloodywell sucks!



Feel a tad better!

If I get banned forever then you can blame it on "BIG BROTHER"............pathetic! Freedom of speech in this country.....yer right?!......... I might be gone for a long time.......BUT IT JUST HAD TO BE SAID!

No-one could ever say I didn,t go down without a fight. I bet this thread gets wiped by GCHQ!

[Viper]

before you get banned can you quickly fill your xmas lunch selection in for fishboy

if the governemnt could get there way you'd be paying a lot more for the worse polluting car on the planet

Edited by Viper on Tuesday 29th September 17:52

[nismobrown]

same here , i have never voted for that bunch of W*****S and never will.

Edited by nismobrown on Tuesday 29th September 17:55

[Leatherman]

nismobrown said:

same here , i have never voted for that bunch of W*****S and never will.

Edited by nismobrown on Tuesday 29th September 17:55

Well someone did. Any guilty parties on here

[VENOM500]

if the governemnt could get there way you'd be paying a lot more for the worse polluting car on the planet



I wouldn,t hold your breath on that one, I can see a BIG price increase on the way. I wouldn,t be surprized if by 2012 Viper road tax is up to £1000. I think its would be wishful thinking to think other wise. "THE worse polluting car on the planet" is on borrowed time. It not something I like to think about ,but sticking heads in the sand isn,t going to make the issues of 8000cc plus engines go away.
In fact I would put money on it that car like ours will be very very expensive to tax in 10 years time in an all out Global Government effort to make anything "Supercar..ish" a thing of the past. Scarey but true and whilst some might think its all a bit OTT you,d have your head in the sand to think otherwise.
On a personal level I feel very much pulled between keeping or selling the Venom, whilst I can cope (just) with the cost of fuel I do feel very uncertain about even the short term future of our cars (Vipers) let alone the long term prospects.I don,t want to be left with a £35k Pink Elephant stuck in the garage.
The global issues IMOP are important but there is a lot of ball st going on with it all and it will be a case of "To play you pay" and if anyone with a 8 ltr Viper thinks there going to be left alone in the corner to play , they are most likely to be in for a nasty shock.I hate all this negative gloom on our future SuperCar fun but if we all take an honest look at thinks going on with the planet and wipe away some of the upbeat cloud9 stuff our days ARE numbered. Only a fool would think otherwise. Its almost a case of who blinks first, once taxes on these cars becomes only for the very rich Supercars and there prices will drop into a bottomless pit as everyone tries to offload them .
My own personal hunch is by 2020 (or in a decade) Vipers and similar cars, will be forced off the roads by any Governent at that time by massive tax penalties........GLOOM.....

On an upbeat note....Get out there and make the most of them as this "Golden Period" in motoring history comes to a close. RIP TO WIND IN THE HAIR AND THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE

Edited by Viper on Tuesday 29th September 17:52

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[Viper]

i posted one up Tom a few months back

[Leatherman]

I do agree with you Tom but as always there will be a starting point and no Government would go back beyond say 5 years so pre 2004 Vipers could very well become a premium item. I think yours would be quite safe.

[Viper]

if you could by a new euro spec viper after april 2010 the tax would be £950

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...


What changes are being made to vehicle tax from April 2010?
Vehicle tax rates for cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 are split into 13 bands depending on CO2 emissions. The amount you will pay depends on which band your car comes under.

From April 2010 there will be different Vehicle Tax rates for new cars when they are first registered. These are known as ‘first-year rates’. Standard rates of Vehicle Tax will also change in April 2010.
What are the ‘first-year rates’?

From April 2010 anyone buying a new car will pay a different rate of Vehicle Tax for the first tax disc. From the second tax disc onwards they will then pay the standard rate. This will send a stronger signal to the buyer about the environmental implications of their car purchase and will only apply to new cars, not already registered cars.

Band CO2 (g/km) 2010 first-year rate 2010 first-year alternative fuel rate
A Up to 100 £0 £0
B 101 -110 £0 £0
C 111 -120 £0 £0
D 121 -130 £0 £0
E 131 -140 £110.00 £100.00
F 141 -150 £125.00 £115.00
G 151 -165 £155.00 £145.00
H 166 -175 £250.00 £240.00
I 176 - 185 £300.00 £290.00
J 186 - 200 £425.00 £415.00
K 201- 225 £550.00 £540.00
L 226 - 255 £750.00 £740.00
M Over 255 £950.00 £940.00
What about already registered cars?

From April 2010, already registered higher emitting cars will be charged up to £30 more and lower emitting cars will be charged up to £30 less.

Band
CO2 (g/km)
2010-11 standard rate

A
Up to 100
£0

B
101-110
£20

C
111-120
£30

D
121-130
£90

E
131-140
£110

F
141-150
£125

G
151-165
£155

H
166-175
£180

I
176-185
£200

J
186-200
£235

K*
201-225
£245

L
226-255
£425

M
Over 255
£435

[Phoenix Viper]

Should have brought a Dodge Ram 5.7 hemi an LPG it £101.00 road tax

[Dr-Bob]

My 20 TDCI Transit is £185 as well... But i'm not complaining......................







OH Thats right i dont pay it....

[VENOM500]

Leatherman said:

I do agree with you Tom but as always there will be a starting point and no Government would go back beyond say 5 years so pre 2004 Vipers could very well become a premium item. I think yours would be quite safe.

I hope your right Tony, but its does play on my mind , you can never be sure of whats going to happen and anything on the DVLA web site can be changed at a Governments whim Neil, nothings set in stone where Tax,s are concerned and I still think its head in the clouds stuff to think were not going to paid to "feel the pain" in a few year time if we don,t bend to the "party" way of thinking. I hope the DVLA pricing figures don,t move to much but with a Save the Planet bandwaggon being a great way to raise tax,s your a braver man than me to be so assured of the future costs, I hope I,m completly wrong and your right! But the CO2 tax rules are still in the early stages IMOP and sooner or later ALL the loop holes maybe closed .

[Gixer]

I like the newspaper article. Best sports = Tigra, hmm hardly a sports car.

There are worrying times ahead. It appears to me that manufacturers see this as well. Over the past few years there certainly seams to have been an increase in big powerful cars with big engines particularly from Europe. I wonder if this is one final push on their part before governments legislate them in to line. To me as a petrol head the future looks bleak and all because of 'global warming', sorry 'climate change' - something this world has undergone for millions of years, long before we were around. I really do not buy into this at all. A means of taxation.

Then there is the roads. Poor quality and ever reducing speed limits. Went out on the bike yesterday to find a great part of the A28 is now 99% 40mph, down from NSL. Not many NSL's left now, first they go to 50mph and then 40mph...... Off to France tomorrow though - good roads Did think of going somewhere in the UK but that involves using UK roads and paying UK prices so France it was so up yours Brown you tosser

Of course what that article fails to mention is the fact that most the Vipers/Lambo's etc in this country are amongst the least polluting cars in the country because they spend most the time in the garage

Edited by Gixer on Wednesday 30th September 09:57

[Viper_Larry]

Gixer said:

Of course what that article fails to mention is the fact that most the Vipers/Lambo's etc in this country are amongst the least polluting cars in the country because they spend most the time in the garage

EXACTLY! That's what I find so annoying, yes a Honda Insight might be the greenest car to buy according to the article, but do 10,000 average miles a year in it and it's more polluting than my Viper. This is what they can't seem to get their head around.

[ViperScot]

I've always liked this pic:

[Gixer]

Viper_Larry said:

Gixer said:

Of course what that article fails to mention is the fact that most the Vipers/Lambo's etc in this country are amongst the least polluting cars in the country because they spend most the time in the garage

EXACTLY! That's what I find so annoying, yes a Honda Insight might be the greenest car to buy according to the article, but do 10,000 average miles a year in it and it's more polluting than my Viper. This is what they can't seem to get their head around.

You would be hard pushed to find a Viper that has produced more CO2 than my daily Mazda. It might only be 2L but has covered 192K miles in less than 5 years. Mind you it is loads more to tax than the Vette...