Is there a scam going on from bogus buyers?
Is there a scam going on from bogus buyers?
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Pacman1972

Original Poster:

327 posts

293 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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2nd request this week from French buyers seemingly willing to pay up front for a car not seen. Coincidence or some strange scam?

1st buyer was seemingly quite knowledgeable about chimaera's

Anyone else had any of these.

JonyTVR

2,579 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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buyers from over seas are getting quite common tbh, my spitty went to belgium, good exchange rate tend to make them 'cheap' for them compared to the ones that fetch a premium already in their country. the guy I sold to was pretty knowledgeable but I would expect quite a few questions to be asked and photos to be sent if I was the buyer, but if they are coming to you with the cash what have you got to lose?

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,469 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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JonyTVR said:
if they are coming to you with the cash what have you got to lose?
Nothing, assuming it's genuine cash. wink

Pacman1972

Original Poster:

327 posts

293 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I think I'd want to be sure the money was cleared in my account.

JonyTVR

2,579 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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yes I was in a hurry writing that, to add I actually met the guy at folkestone and handed the car over, the guy sent 10% deposit into my bank account first then met me with the rest in cash, obviously it would be advised to meet outside your bank so you can pay it in, my guy seemed spot on (helped he was the president of the club in his country and was quite well known within the club so I risked it and paid it in when I got home and all was fine luckily!)

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Yes i sold me MGB to a guy from Belguim ..he as a LS cerb..I asked if it was for sale after two years and he wanted double !

haircutmike

22,511 posts

235 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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Sold my XJS to an Italian.

It sounded so much like a scam, he couldn't speak English and got his Nigerian friend to translate on the phone constantly asking for my bank details to transfer the money.

Anyhoo, asked to be paid by Paypal, then transfered to bank, waited a couple of weeks then let a transport company take the car, all's well in the end but a bit of a larf!

Naybr

209 posts

197 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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I had one couple of these when I sold my TR6. They were clearly scams, because when I offered to meet up (I happened to be in France that week) to show him some photos, he wasn't interested.

I think the way it works is that they 'accidentally' overpay and then ask for the balance to be refunded before the original payment (doesn't) clear.

It might be genuine of course, but take care ...

rabowman

284 posts

219 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Don't worry !!! Think posotive.

A guy from France has just bought my 450 for my asking price.
He deposited the full ammount into my account without seeing the car, and collected it 2 weeks later.

Stirling is crap on the F/EX at the moment and they are buying almost 25% cheaper than a few years ago.

Suggest Steve Heath publishes a French B(b)ible.

See you all when I buy my next TVR (next week?????)

Rob

666 SVT

1,052 posts

271 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Had a couple myself this week, One with an offer 3k below my already crazy low asking price and another wanting a photo of the plate under the bonnet with the chassis number on ! Could be real could be fake who knows ?

Jammie Dodger

2,449 posts

186 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Could be genuine - speaking to a German contact today, he asked me out of the blue if I had any classic car contacts - apparently RHD classics are fashionable in Europe (why ? - prob weak sterling as another poster said) and this guy said he had a couple of friends that have bought 45 cars from the UK this last year, to sell on, ranging from MGBs to Merc SLs and Porsche 964s Inc turbo

He gave me one example of an 88 450 SL, mint, 1 owner, low miles FSH - £4k !

ETA - he himself sold his AMG, was going for a Bentley but settled for a Jag XF , so combination of Britcool and or xchange rates

It does add up because a while ago the strong pound made the left hook Porsches look so cheap they were coming into the UK in fairly significant numbers



Edited by Jammie Dodger on Saturday 25th June 08:51

onesickpuppy

2,672 posts

188 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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haircutmike said:
Sold my XJS to an Italian.

It sounded so much like a scam, he couldn't speak English and got his Nigerian friend to translate on the phone constantly asking for my bank details to transfer the money.

Anyhoo, asked to be paid by Paypal, then transfered to bank, waited a couple of weeks then let a transport company take the car, all's well in the end but a bit of a larf!
I'd have thought a straight transfer to your bank would be safer - no PayPal chargebacks?

haircutmike

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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onesickpuppy said:
I'd have thought a straight transfer to your bank would be safer - no PayPal chargebacks?
Not necessarily, spoke to bank, there are occasions when money shows up on your account then money whisked away from source, then shows negative in your account and you are left without!

This was about 5 years ago.

Also paypal transactions are insured, (unless I am told otherwise).

tuscan66

255 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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haircutmike said:
Not necessarily, spoke to bank, there are occasions when money shows up on your account then money whisked away from source, then shows negative in your account and you are left without!

This was about 5 years ago.

Also paypal transactions are insured, (unless I am told otherwise).
so how can the bank say its in the account then take it back... dont understand these claw backs with banks or paypal any one explain in more detail cheers