Chim vs 944 S2 Cab ?
Discussion
I had a 944 not a cab though ! Handled really well, but was just so slow I got beat off the lights by a Saxo !
I used it as a every day car for a while parts were expensive, and needed tlc more than I thought !
The Chimaera is much faster eats more fuel ! but much more fun, and if left in standard form can be cheap to run just do the correct checks !
I used it as a every day car for a while parts were expensive, and needed tlc more than I thought !
The Chimaera is much faster eats more fuel ! but much more fun, and if left in standard form can be cheap to run just do the correct checks !
i owned a 944 before i purchased my 4lt chimaera build quality of the 944 was first class but is always classed as the poor mans car the only reasons i sold mine were a few special tools were required also i could never get use to the driving positon they are also prone to rust now .
The TVR is fairly easy to work on insurance is cheep its gets a lot of attention where ever you go , driving position is good performance is more than you want, ride or drive a TVR and you will want one.
The TVR is fairly easy to work on insurance is cheep its gets a lot of attention where ever you go , driving position is good performance is more than you want, ride or drive a TVR and you will want one.
SILICONEKID340HP said:
I don`t think so ! the 928 would obliterate the 4l
1995
Model designation: 928 GTS
Engine displacement: 5.4 L
Valves: 32
Power: 350 PS (345 hp, 257 kW)
Torque: 500 Nm (369 ftlbf)
Its not that simple, according to Carfolio the 91 928 gts (345 hp) which weighs 1600kg has a power to weight ratio of 215hp/ton.1995
Model designation: 928 GTS
Engine displacement: 5.4 L
Valves: 32
Power: 350 PS (345 hp, 257 kW)
Torque: 500 Nm (369 ftlbf)
A 94 chimaera 4.0 (240 hp) which weighs 1060kg has a power to weight ratio of 226 hp/ ton.
So theyre more equal than you may think.
There is no doubting the mass of the 928. It's a hefty old wagon.
The old man owned a 1978 928 until giving it away recently. Mint condition, concours with hardly any miles. Almost certainly the best in the UK by quite some margin.
That had the smaller engine and the 3 speed box. Overall I wouldn't put money on it being faster than a 4L, however, it built speed like a train and I do suspect that there could have been points at higher speeds where it may be accelerating faster. Certainly over the ton I think it begins to favour the old Porker.
I've also driven one of the last GTS 928s. That car is a step change swifter than a standard 4L at every single point.
With regards to the Chim v 944 rather than performance it's a styling thing. The 944 cabin isn't exactly a special place to be and whether the Chim is faster or not it is certainly going to feel it which is more what it is about.
The old man owned a 1978 928 until giving it away recently. Mint condition, concours with hardly any miles. Almost certainly the best in the UK by quite some margin.
That had the smaller engine and the 3 speed box. Overall I wouldn't put money on it being faster than a 4L, however, it built speed like a train and I do suspect that there could have been points at higher speeds where it may be accelerating faster. Certainly over the ton I think it begins to favour the old Porker.
I've also driven one of the last GTS 928s. That car is a step change swifter than a standard 4L at every single point.
With regards to the Chim v 944 rather than performance it's a styling thing. The 944 cabin isn't exactly a special place to be and whether the Chim is faster or not it is certainly going to feel it which is more what it is about.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Sunday 18th March 09:14
DonkeyApple said:
1978 928
- apples and pears, different generation of cars altogether
DonkeyApple said:
I've also driven one of the last GTS 928s. That car is a step change swifter than a standard 4L at every single point.
what he saidETA - as a late teen/early twentysomething in the 80s, Porsches had a terrible image, w
ky stockbroker bonus fodder at the point of the 89 meltdown. I swore I'd NEVER own one.Ended up into a 944S 2.5 16v - couldn't believe the build quality (bearing in mind it was over 15yrs old, 120k miles, dodgy history (cheap shed )). It was certainly nippy and truly felt hewn from granite.
Then into a Boxster 3.2S, then Boxster RS60 (1300 miles on the clock). Build quality - check. Handling - second to none. Point to point - outrun pretty much anything.
Legend has it, once you've driven a Porsche, anything else feels like a wobbly bar stool.
Back on topic though, Chim is probably markedly quicker than 944S2. But i'd get a 500 to be safe
Edited by Jammy Dodger on Sunday 18th March 09:04
A close friend of mine has a 944 Turbo (early 220bhp) that has been tweaked to around 250 / 260bhp, there is virtually nothing between his and my standard 4.0 Chim in the real world.
Similarly the Chim seems to cover ground at a similar pace to my old 968 which had a fast road / track set-up.
Porsche's significantly better screwed together than the TVR but as for a sense of occasion / noise and fun the Chim wins hands down.
Similarly the Chim seems to cover ground at a similar pace to my old 968 which had a fast road / track set-up.
Porsche's significantly better screwed together than the TVR but as for a sense of occasion / noise and fun the Chim wins hands down.
I wouldn't class the S2 as slow, still has 208 bhp and a good wedge of torque along with what is widely regarded as one of the all time best regarded handlers, its fairly heavy though (being made out of metal), I suspect 4.0 Chim is noticeably quicker even allowing for TVR vs Porches approach to power claims, where the TVR scores without ever having or needing to have been in one is the sound, the 944 sounds ok but it cant hold a candle to the TVR in that respect.
As for build quality, the Porsche is well built but mine does have a few squeaks and rattles after its 115,000 miles, it is 21 years old so I can forgive it that, there is the odd "senior moment" like indicators that blink too fast, a little jet off coolant from an elbow under braking, floppy PAS belt but all sorted easily so far.
I will keep this for a while but its a Chim I am after ultimately I think, I don't do many miles, I do most of my own spannering (within limitations) but it will have to live outside (under a cover during the worst weather)and be able to operate all year round with a reasonable degree of reliability, i.e. not overheat in traffic. The 944 is doing 20/21 MPG on my running about but have a diesel for when a 4.0 plus V8 isn't appropriate.
Am saving up to find the difference, thinking the Porsche is worth 4 to 5 and will need a bit more for a Chim, thinking double would be a sensible budget plus a 2 grand emergency fund, does that sound appropriate ? Insurance wise im 41 and the Porsche is 262 a year, tax is 215 so thinking a Chim would be similar standing costs, plus an MOT, so sort of 500 as a starter, plus servicing, plus additional fuel, based 18 mpg for the the TVR.
As for build quality, the Porsche is well built but mine does have a few squeaks and rattles after its 115,000 miles, it is 21 years old so I can forgive it that, there is the odd "senior moment" like indicators that blink too fast, a little jet off coolant from an elbow under braking, floppy PAS belt but all sorted easily so far.
I will keep this for a while but its a Chim I am after ultimately I think, I don't do many miles, I do most of my own spannering (within limitations) but it will have to live outside (under a cover during the worst weather)and be able to operate all year round with a reasonable degree of reliability, i.e. not overheat in traffic. The 944 is doing 20/21 MPG on my running about but have a diesel for when a 4.0 plus V8 isn't appropriate.
Am saving up to find the difference, thinking the Porsche is worth 4 to 5 and will need a bit more for a Chim, thinking double would be a sensible budget plus a 2 grand emergency fund, does that sound appropriate ? Insurance wise im 41 and the Porsche is 262 a year, tax is 215 so thinking a Chim would be similar standing costs, plus an MOT, so sort of 500 as a starter, plus servicing, plus additional fuel, based 18 mpg for the the TVR.
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