advice needed please
advice needed please
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Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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When I was out today going gently over a speed bump she started missing badly. I pulled over straight away and knocked it off waited 1 minute and tried to start it. She just spun and stunk of petrol so waited 10 minutes but same again then 15 and same again, eventually it started rough with lots of smoke fulid coming out the exhaust and stinking of petrol. Made it home seemed to clear a bit but seems to have a bit of a miss on tick over so what do you think would be the best course of action to get it on a computer or do some basic checks
thanks

taylormj4

1,635 posts

296 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Might not be this but just in case, check your fuel hoses in the engine bay, they are prone to cracking and can fail and spray fuel all over the engine causing a fire.

The two hoses come up near the base of the windscreen on the driver's side under the bonnet, close to the stepper motor. If they were cracked, the jolt from the speed hump may have finished them off.

Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Petrol pipes are okay the fuel on the floor was coming out the exhaust

whitewolf

751 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Running rough? Over speed bumps?

Checked things light HT leads?

whitewolf

751 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Running rough? Over speed bumps?

Checked things light HT leads?

Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Are there some easy checks on the leads and extenders like maybe resistance or something I don't think it was related to the speed bump I think it was that I let off the throttle and it flooded for some reason. I just wondered wether there were any simple checks anyone could suggest thanks

Bobhon

1,059 posts

209 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I had the same thing on my V8S recently. Running really rough, wouldn't accelerate and loads and loads of white smoke coming out of the exhaust with a smell of neat petrol.
Spoke with an experienced V8 mechanic and he said that it was probably an injector sticking open, not totally uncommon, especially on infrequently used cars.
The bad news is that if it sticks wide open then it can pass enough fuel into the cylinder to hydraulic the engine, not good. Probably best not to drive it until you've got it fixed.

I would suggest getting the injectors out and cleaned, or replacing them with recon units.

HTH

Bob


Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Maybe the injector was stuck open because the amount of fuel was unbelievable, would the neat petrol have done a

ny damage to cats or anything
Does anybody know if a faulty injector would show up on a computer?

Edited by Twistygit on Monday 2nd April 08:42

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Twistygit said:
Are there some easy checks on the leads and extenders like maybe resistance or something I don't think it was related to the speed bump I think it was that I let off the throttle and it flooded for some reason. I just wondered wether there were any simple checks anyone could suggest thanks
Just a simple ohm meter. The low voltage used by the meter will soon tell you if you have a break in the lead, because it can't jump any gaps.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Pull the plugs out to see whats going on.

If you have got an injector stuck open you will be able to tell straight away.

Twistygit

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183 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Thanks for that I will pull the plugs out tonight would you run it first cause it hasn't run since friday

EGB

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187 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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spend said:
Pull the plugs out to see whats going on.

If you have got an injector stuck open you will be able to tell straight away.
A wet plug will tell you so. Alao a post mentioned fuel coming out of the exhaust was cured with a new AFM. First check the connections on the AFM are clean and tight. Also the AFM plug holding clip is not loose

Edited by EGB on Monday 2nd April 22:35

Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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got plugs out all look the same but 1 is knackered would 1 plug cause such a bad flooding?
also tested the resistance of the leads and it varies from 2000 to 4500 does that sound a bit too much of a difference? all the extenders where about the same 4500 to 5000

spongy

2,236 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Make sure if you have had an injector go down you change your engine oil if she has chucked loads of fuel down the bores,watch out for bore wash,check your cats as it can destroy these.When an injector does go the car normally bangs and backfires like hell.

Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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When talking to an RAC guy today he mentioned that an injector can stick open with an earthing fault. Does this sound feasible?

paulathome

686 posts

248 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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This is very possible. I had an intermittent problem that took me 3 years to find as it
Was so rare when tha fault occured.
The engine would start to miss badly and smell of petrol. The fault
Would normally clear after turning the ignition off then restarting.
After 3 years i found that injector 7 was shorting to ground ( this is what the ECU does to make the injector inject)
This meant that when injector 7 went short this made all injectors on passenger
Side of engine inject continuously (as they are wired in parallel) which flooded the engine instantly.
As i said i only diagnosed it after 3 years when the fault went permanent.
Hope this helps a little.
With your fault i would be looking at the airflow meter too.
Paul

Twistygit

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800 posts

183 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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So it is possible it is an earth fault, can you remember if it was the injector itself or a wire at fault? Do you know the best way to check the air flow meter I have a bible I think there is something in there about checking it

paulathome

686 posts

248 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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It was the injector itself that was shorting to ground on the ground side which
As explained made all injectors on that bank inject constantly.
The wiring was fine all the way back to ECU.
I'm sure if you search on here there was a post about testing your
AFM, blitzRacing is your man with the knowhow.
Paul

Twistygit

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183 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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thanks Paul so would you say injectors out and sent away

EGB

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187 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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