Speaker suggestions
Discussion
Hi chaps, i know probably not the usual post on here but currently all i have is some small alpine speakers in the front which are OK for treble and some mids but no bass whatsoever.
The holes in the rear would suggest that speakers of a similar size would have been originally fitted. Can anyone make any suggestions of what they've used to get a bit fuller sound ? 6x9's would be the obvious route for me but are fairly unsightly and remind me of vauxhall nova's of old. I'm going to have to expand the holes to fit anything anyway but suggestions would be great with any links much appreciated.
Bit off kilter to the normal techy posts on here but here's hoping someone else will appreciated a good dance tune from time to time.
AJ
The holes in the rear would suggest that speakers of a similar size would have been originally fitted. Can anyone make any suggestions of what they've used to get a bit fuller sound ? 6x9's would be the obvious route for me but are fairly unsightly and remind me of vauxhall nova's of old. I'm going to have to expand the holes to fit anything anyway but suggestions would be great with any links much appreciated.
Bit off kilter to the normal techy posts on here but here's hoping someone else will appreciated a good dance tune from time to time.
AJ
what headunit do you have mate?
I'm like you and didn't like the 6x9s in the rear shelf.
I'm fitting a 6.5 sub which will be covered by the carpet. amp in the boot to run this.
the front will handle high and mid. then sub for mid and bass, turned down to a reasonable level so the car doesn't rattle.
i've had a little test and sounds really nice, but haven't had the car running yet to do a proper test
I'm like you and didn't like the 6x9s in the rear shelf.
I'm fitting a 6.5 sub which will be covered by the carpet. amp in the boot to run this.
the front will handle high and mid. then sub for mid and bass, turned down to a reasonable level so the car doesn't rattle.
i've had a little test and sounds really nice, but haven't had the car running yet to do a proper test
brett84 said:
what headunit do you have mate?
I'm like you and didn't like the 6x9s in the rear shelf.
I'm fitting a 6.5 sub which will be covered by the carpet. amp in the boot to run this.
the front will handle high and mid. then sub for mid and bass, turned down to a reasonable level so the car doesn't rattle.
i've had a little test and sounds really nice, but haven't had the car running yet to do a proper test
See this is what i was thinking about doing. Where are you mounting the sub though ? Into the back shelf and then carpeting over it ? I currently have no carpets in mine so that wouldn't be too difficult to do. My head unit is a total and utter peice of crap so need to pick something else up and then a small sub and amp. Will probably just then get some more of the little aplipne's i have in the doors for the rear shelf. I'm like you and didn't like the 6x9s in the rear shelf.
I'm fitting a 6.5 sub which will be covered by the carpet. amp in the boot to run this.
the front will handle high and mid. then sub for mid and bass, turned down to a reasonable level so the car doesn't rattle.
i've had a little test and sounds really nice, but haven't had the car running yet to do a proper test
Be interested to see where you've mounted stuff as don't want to affect getting the roof in and out. You got any pics of your handywork or links to subs ?
Cheers,
AJ
I have an upgraded stereo fitted by the first owner.
It consists of Front speakers with separate tweeters (which I changed last year for similar) and bass speakers behind the ventilation holes in the rear.
The holes in the rear, by the way, did not originally carry speakers.
My system is powered by a genesis amp in the boot, all made up pretty and looks very tidy. It does, however, mean that all the outputs from the stereo travel through to the back of the car, and then the front speaker wires run all the way back again, meaning that there are quite a few thick wires travelling around the car and fitting the carpets, etc can be fiddly.
I spoke to Carl Baker on this subject about a year ago and he seemed to suggest that this arrangement was not ideal, particularly because (IIRC) running thick wires parallel to the chassis would tent to pick up interference from the electrics, and that in any event the amp might not be needed if you had a decent stereo with reasonable power output.
I have yet to call his bluff and wire the speakers directly to the stereo, though, and this system persists.
I would say the following, though. Having a bloody loud stereo is OK but in fact at speed you lose so much of the detail in the sound that I wonder whether it really is worth it. In addition, the base at speed is largely drowned out by the background noise, and turning up the volume really only turns up the treble end of the range.
I don't know whether you could 'test' a system before fitting it?
All the best,
Rich
It consists of Front speakers with separate tweeters (which I changed last year for similar) and bass speakers behind the ventilation holes in the rear.
The holes in the rear, by the way, did not originally carry speakers.
My system is powered by a genesis amp in the boot, all made up pretty and looks very tidy. It does, however, mean that all the outputs from the stereo travel through to the back of the car, and then the front speaker wires run all the way back again, meaning that there are quite a few thick wires travelling around the car and fitting the carpets, etc can be fiddly.
I spoke to Carl Baker on this subject about a year ago and he seemed to suggest that this arrangement was not ideal, particularly because (IIRC) running thick wires parallel to the chassis would tent to pick up interference from the electrics, and that in any event the amp might not be needed if you had a decent stereo with reasonable power output.
I have yet to call his bluff and wire the speakers directly to the stereo, though, and this system persists.
I would say the following, though. Having a bloody loud stereo is OK but in fact at speed you lose so much of the detail in the sound that I wonder whether it really is worth it. In addition, the base at speed is largely drowned out by the background noise, and turning up the volume really only turns up the treble end of the range.
I don't know whether you could 'test' a system before fitting it?
All the best,
Rich
rickprice said:
I have an upgraded stereo fitted by the first owner.
It consists of Front speakers with separate tweeters (which I changed last year for similar) and bass speakers behind the ventilation holes in the rear.
The holes in the rear, by the way, did not originally carry speakers.
My system is powered by a genesis amp in the boot, all made up pretty and looks very tidy. It does, however, mean that all the outputs from the stereo travel through to the back of the car, and then the front speaker wires run all the way back again, meaning that there are quite a few thick wires travelling around the car and fitting the carpets, etc can be fiddly.
I spoke to Carl Baker on this subject about a year ago and he seemed to suggest that this arrangement was not ideal, particularly because (IIRC) running thick wires parallel to the chassis would tent to pick up interference from the electrics, and that in any event the amp might not be needed if you had a decent stereo with reasonable power output.
I have yet to call his bluff and wire the speakers directly to the stereo, though, and this system persists.
I would say the following, though. Having a bloody loud stereo is OK but in fact at speed you lose so much of the detail in the sound that I wonder whether it really is worth it. In addition, the base at speed is largely drowned out by the background noise, and turning up the volume really only turns up the treble end of the range.
I don't know whether you could 'test' a system before fitting it?
All the best,
Rich
Cheers Rich, It consists of Front speakers with separate tweeters (which I changed last year for similar) and bass speakers behind the ventilation holes in the rear.
The holes in the rear, by the way, did not originally carry speakers.
My system is powered by a genesis amp in the boot, all made up pretty and looks very tidy. It does, however, mean that all the outputs from the stereo travel through to the back of the car, and then the front speaker wires run all the way back again, meaning that there are quite a few thick wires travelling around the car and fitting the carpets, etc can be fiddly.
I spoke to Carl Baker on this subject about a year ago and he seemed to suggest that this arrangement was not ideal, particularly because (IIRC) running thick wires parallel to the chassis would tent to pick up interference from the electrics, and that in any event the amp might not be needed if you had a decent stereo with reasonable power output.
I have yet to call his bluff and wire the speakers directly to the stereo, though, and this system persists.
I would say the following, though. Having a bloody loud stereo is OK but in fact at speed you lose so much of the detail in the sound that I wonder whether it really is worth it. In addition, the base at speed is largely drowned out by the background noise, and turning up the volume really only turns up the treble end of the range.
I don't know whether you could 'test' a system before fitting it?
All the best,
Rich
Totally agree that everything gets lost at high speeds, especially with the top down. I'm going to have a look around and see what i can can find in the way of maybe 2 6 inch speakers at the back. I wasn't actually aware that those holes were there for ventilation purpouses...will that cause an issue if they are blocked up do you know ?
I was thinking, as brett has done, to put a smaller sub in the boot but this might be more hassle than its worth so am going to try some bassier speakers in the rear first and see how i fare. I think a new head unit is definitely in order though because mine is absolutely shocking !
Thanks,
AJ
Slightly baffled by this thread. It's perfectly possible to get decent sound quality in a Chim, the sound in mine is fine at 120mph top down in a decatted 500, so frankly your systems must be bit weedy. Alpine DD components up front, Kenwood 7x10's in the bulkhead, Pioneer 8400 head unit hooked up to two 200w Pioneer amps in the boot. Job done.
VictorMeldrew said:
Slightly baffled by this thread. It's perfectly possible to get decent sound quality in a Chim, the sound in mine is fine at 120mph top down in a decatted 500, so frankly your systems must be bit weedy. Alpine DD components up front, Kenwood 7x10's in the bulkhead, Pioneer 8400 head unit hooked up to two 200w Pioneer amps in the boot. Job done.
That is a fairly hefty system you've got there Victor !! I had a bit of a breakthrough last night when i took one of the s2000 seats out and found a load of wires in the back of it for the speakers. I knew there were speakers in there but didn't think they worked as they weren't wired up when i first got it. Sounds soooo much better, all i need now is some bass. Sub and amp or will just some high qual components in the bulkhead suffice?
VictorMeldrew said:
Slightly baffled by this thread. It's perfectly possible to get decent sound quality in a Chim, the sound in mine is fine at 120mph top down in a decatted 500, so frankly your systems must be bit weedy. Alpine DD components up front, Kenwood 7x10's in the bulkhead, Pioneer 8400 head unit hooked up to two 200w Pioneer amps in the boot. Job done.
I was thinking the same 
Alpine head unit
JL audio up front
6X9 Genesis subs in the back
4 channel amp in the boot
Its really good up to silly speeds.
Get two of these
http://www.bassjunkies.com/subwoofers/6.5subwoofer...
or one of these
http://www.bassjunkies.com/subwoofers/6.5subwoofer...
and one of these
http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?main_page=pro...
http://www.bassjunkies.com/subwoofers/6.5subwoofer...
or one of these
http://www.bassjunkies.com/subwoofers/6.5subwoofer...
and one of these
http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?main_page=pro...
Dave 500 said:
Not much point putting high qual components mid/tops in the back you won't hear the detail.
I would try and find a small sub or subs and put a mono amp in the boot
I would try and find a small sub or subs and put a mono amp in the boot
Agreed, my Pioneer head unit has a "front enhancement" feature, which basically makes it act like aactive crossover, pumping just bass to the rears, mid bass and highs to the fronts. There is still enough air movement from the front to feel my right leg being pushed (think air bazooka) but not much in the way of high notes to the rears where they wouldn't be much use.There are some German speakers now available with some smaller subs that would probably work in the rear instead of the Kenwood 7x10's (which are pretty impossible to find now).
http://www.tvruk.tv/www.tvruk.tv/dyncat053d.html?c...
One improvement I'd like to make to mine is to fit 3 way components in the front to pull the soundstage forward even more. Some lowlife has actually robbed all my speakers except one of my 7x10's out of my garage while the car has been laid up - I'd taken all the speakers out to fit new carpets - so I've got the opportunity!
Edited by VictorMeldrew on Friday 18th May 10:30
I wanted to avoid the max power look on the tuscan and therefore went for something that looked like it could have been 'standard'.
I would imagine you could do similar with a Chimaera.
I dont like 6 x 9 and if you want quality...avoid them. People will also say there is no point going for quality in a TVR, but in my opinion thats rubbish, you need to go for better than budget if you want to overcome some of the stuff you are working against...wind noise, squeaks and creaks etc.
You can get an incredible amount of quality (and bass) from just thinking about how you install them and spending some time and effort. Buy good kit and install it badly and it will sound no better than your £40 halfords special 6 x 9's!!
This was my thread...
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
im really pleased with how it sounds now. I went for Ipod head unit and amplifiers for front and back speakers, all in mdf sealed enclosures, not that you would ever know by looking, only by listening
If you look at the end of the thread you will see i changed the rear speakers for two JL 6.5 inch subs and they are really incredible, powered by a genesis sub amp, also an incredible thing!!
I would imagine you could do similar with a Chimaera.
I dont like 6 x 9 and if you want quality...avoid them. People will also say there is no point going for quality in a TVR, but in my opinion thats rubbish, you need to go for better than budget if you want to overcome some of the stuff you are working against...wind noise, squeaks and creaks etc.
You can get an incredible amount of quality (and bass) from just thinking about how you install them and spending some time and effort. Buy good kit and install it badly and it will sound no better than your £40 halfords special 6 x 9's!!
This was my thread...
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
im really pleased with how it sounds now. I went for Ipod head unit and amplifiers for front and back speakers, all in mdf sealed enclosures, not that you would ever know by looking, only by listening
If you look at the end of the thread you will see i changed the rear speakers for two JL 6.5 inch subs and they are really incredible, powered by a genesis sub amp, also an incredible thing!!
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