Air/Fuel ratio gauge

[andy-w]

Hi guys,

Has anyone fitted an air fuel ratio gauge that will plug in to one of the existing lambda sensors...?

I have fitted a MS1 and edis 8 coil packs and it has been running very rich, i have now dropped the fuel a bit and it runs better but has no punch, the accceleration is very gentle.

I have had a look on ebay and seen there are loads of different air/fuel gauges but am not sure which one to go for. I was thinking of the innovate wide band kit for £150 and do the job properly or go for a gauge and connect it to each of the redundant lambda sensors in turn so i can see what each bank is doing.

As usual any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

On the plus side the engine runs really smooth now with no hunting at idle and no shunting when doing 30mph which for an HC is quite good...!!!

Cheers

Andy

[Alexdaredevilz]

You need to change the whole lot, the existing lambda's are narrow band, you need wideband and controller,

[SILICONEKID340HP]

I have the LX1 wideband display ,just sticks anywhere ,you dont have to start taking the dash off .

The controller and wideband lambda is Techedge 2J2 wideband system

http://trigger-wheels.com/store/contents/en-uk/d27...

[Simon says]

This will fit in the dash Andy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOVATE-MTX-L-AFR-Wideb... Innovate have good logging software too & I have had dealings with this supplier if its any help to you trying to get results from your NB sensors is a proper pain (but possible) seriously you need a WB mate did you get my Email?

Edited by Simon says on Monday 25th June 11:31

[andy-w]

Simon says said:

This will fit in the dash Andy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOVATE-MTX-L-AFR-Wideb... Innovate have good logging software too & I have had dealings with this supplier if its any help to you trying to get results from your NB sensors is a proper pain (but possible) seriously you need a WB mate did you get my Email?

Edited by Simon says on Monday 25th June 11:31

yes simon i got your mail cheers, thats given me some more setting to play with!!!

Yeah thats the one i was looking at i take it you just welded the bung in the Y piece before the main cat?...

after all the work i have done setting up the wifes nursery i cant see her objecting to me buying anther toy for the car...!

I will have a look at the one on trigger wheels as well, cheers daz.

[Alexdaredevilz]

Me and Haircutmike both use this one off ebay, and its been great so far

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AEM-ANALOG-GAUGE-WIDEBAN...

[Simon says]

andy-w said:

Simon says said:

This will fit in the dash Andy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INNOVATE-MTX-L-AFR-Wideb... Innovate have good logging software too & I have had dealings with this supplier if its any help to you trying to get results from your NB sensors is a proper pain (but possible) seriously you need a WB mate did you get my Email?

Edited by Simon says on Monday 25th June 11:31

yes simon i got your mail cheers, thats given me some more setting to play with!!!

Yeah thats the one i was looking at i take it you just welded the bung in the Y piece before the main cat?...

after all the work i have done setting up the wifes nursery i cant see her objecting to me buying anther toy for the car...!

I will have a look at the one on trigger wheels as well, cheers daz.

Forgot to say Andy the unit Daz uses as a good rep things become much clearer with a WB if your just trying to get the fuelling right by feel you may as well be pissing in the wind Just convince the missus the WB gauge will help out with the washing up after Sunday lunch

Edited by Simon says on Monday 25th June 11:56

[andy-w]

i am really slow today...i just clicked that i can put the sensor in one of the existing lambda positions...go for a spin and check one bank and then put in the other and check that bank....!

I like the idea of telling the mrs it will help with the washing up...that might be better than the "I know £10 for all this stuff - a complete bargain..."

I know what your saying about guess the fueling. I think i will order either AEM or Innovate today and then get a real feel for whats going on...

[Simon says]

Andy in all honesty you should not need to monitor both banks for what you are trying to achieve, you also need to weld in a Lambda bung (stock OE ones are too small) you have more mail

[Alexdaredevilz]

andy-w said:

i am really slow today...i just clicked that i can put the sensor in one of the existing lambda positions...go for a spin and check one bank and then put in the other and check that bank....

I thought that, but the thread are different and you might get issue's with air speed in that position

[ChimpofDarkness]

I've been looking into this too.

I don't want to change the look of the dash and as I have a spare Ipod Touch with WiFi I've been looking at this:

http://www.aemelectronics.com/wideband-air-fuel-sy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpR0VUemOV0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=ends...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AEM-X-WIFI-WIDEBAND-UEGO...

It seems to get good reviews, the only negative being it doesn't work with Android phones which is no big deal for me as I'll be using the IPod Touch.

Edited by ChimpofDarkness on Monday 25th June 13:06

[andy-w]

ok - well i think i might go for the Innovate kit as that looks like a nice simple install.

Last question where is the best place to mount the sensor?

Got your other mail simon - let me know when your free and i will give you a call. Can you drop me a mail with your mobile number on as some theiving toe rag pinched my mobile...!

[dhf]

Auto Meter,easy to fit

Edited by dhf on Monday 25th June 14:12

[SILICONEKID340HP]

Nice job ,i like my little setup .Im running on two wide band lambdas ,two inputs in the the ECU ,works off one and trims the other ..I can swop from one lambda to the other in a few seconds..

Sounds a bit over the top but all new modern cars run on two ..well if its a v8

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Monday 25th June 16:17

[Alexdaredevilz]

[SILICONEKID340HP]

Like it ,I want to replace my clock with an oil temp guage but i want it to be the same ..How do you go about it ..

Alex is your guage a bit pisd

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Monday 25th June 16:34

[Alexdaredevilz]

I got oil temp, oil pressure, amp meter, water temp, afr gauge and fuel gauge, i did have a clock but replaced it with AFR gauge, I had a extra 2 clock compared to most

[SILICONEKID340HP]

Alexdaredevilz said:

I got oil temp, oil pressure, amp meter, water temp, afr gauge and fuel gauge, i did have a clock but replaced it with AFR gauge, I had a extra 2 clock compared to most

Where did you get the guages from ? or do you need to get them made up.

[Alexdaredevilz]

SILICONEKID340HP said:

Where did you get the guages from ? or do you need to get them made up.

mine were in the car when I bought it, trying ringing around some breakers for one, its standard tvr kit

[dhf]

SILICONEKID340HP said:

Where did you get the guages from ? or do you need to get them made up.

I had all mine made at Speedy Cables excepting The two black dials which are Autometer which Speedy couldn't make.mine were cream originally