percentage increase in torque - SC
percentage increase in torque - SC
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Chilliman

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12,423 posts

191 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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OK, the basis of power increase with forced induction is loosely double the pressure double the power, so 1 bar of boost (used to be atmospheres in my day) will double the bhp (twice atmospheric pressure). Although of course things are never that simple and there's lots of other other things to take into account so there's losses to contend with. (I know this is simplification at its best but simple is what I'm trying to be).

So typically, when a SC is fitted, and assuming no other modifications undertaken when it is, can we expect the percentage torque increase to be in line with the percentage power increase or, (as I seem to suspect but I don't know why) the torque gains are greater in percentage terms than the power gains. Oh, and if it makes any difference it's a 10.5:1 CR and a fairly lairy cam (somewhere between a Stealth and a 404)

I hope that makes sense to someone confused


Alun Ivor

12,424 posts

179 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Nope, but I like the sound of it, ha ha ha.

Alun Ivor

12,424 posts

179 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Actually, I'm not sure but that sounds on the money to me, and I've observed the same kind of stats to back that suggestion up, turbo, the torque figure is the one that stands out! And do we love torque or what, ha ha ha.

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Nope not a clue, however throttle push equals a warm feeling in your pants, which after all is the result of the for mentioned mods smile

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Hoofa said:
Nope not a clue, however throttle push equals a warm feeling in your pants, which after all is the result of the for mentioned mods smile
So come on then whats yours pushing out you have been very quiet!

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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I think we should have a dyno day where the big boys meet, that said I think I will be bow to yours , hope fully the hog roast grill will be still be in place smile, just shoving a new clutch into mine at the mo

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Hoofa said:
throttle push equals a warm feeling in your pants
I thought it was only Griff drivers who suffer that kind of incontinence.

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Hoofa said:
I think we should have a dyno day where the big boys meet, that said I think I will be bow to yours , hope fully the hog roast grill will be still be in place smile, just shoving a new clutch into mine at the mo
I will be up for that almost stripped my new engine down now for machining, gotta get a move on with it smile

Hog roast is being glassed back in sorry...

What clutch you going for twin plate??

slideways

4,101 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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neal1980 said:
Hoofa said:
I think we should have a dyno day where the big boys meet, that said I think I will be bow to yours , hope fully the hog roast grill will be still be in place smile, just shoving a new clutch into mine at the mo
I will be up for that almost stripped my new engine down now for machining, gotta get a move on with it smile

Hog roast is being glassed back in sorry...

What clutch you going for twin plate??
Neal did you get over your overheating issues then? Or are you not putting turbos on the new build?

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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slideways said:
Neal did you get over your overheating issues then? Or are you not putting turbos on the new build?
It did run hotter when I had the smaller rad in there, put back to standard wih the uprated spal fans and all fine. New build will have turbos but im having a different rad again...I want it to look standard on the outside smile

slideways

4,101 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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neal1980 said:
slideways said:
Neal did you get over your overheating issues then? Or are you not putting turbos on the new build?
It did run hotter when I had the smaller rad in there, put back to standard wih the uprated spal fans and all fine. New build will have turbos but im having a different rad again...I want it to look standard on the outside smile
I must admit I really didn't want to have to cut my bonnet, just as Well mine stays nice and cool now

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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neal1980 said:
Hoofa said:
I think we should have a dyno day where the big boys meet, that said I think I will be bow to yours , hope fully the hog roast grill will be still be in place smile, just shoving a new clutch into mine at the mo
I will be up for that almost stripped my new engine down now for machining, gotta get a move on with it smile

Hog roast is being glassed back in sorry...

What clutch you going for twin plate??
Going same as slide ways , very impressed how light it feels, I have the rather heavy helix that juddered on take up so time it hits the bin

v8 racing

2,064 posts

281 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Chilliman said:
OK, the basis of power increase with forced induction is loosely double the pressure double the power, so 1 bar of boost (used to be atmospheres in my day) will double the bhp (twice atmospheric pressure). Although of course things are never that simple and there's lots of other other things to take into account so there's losses to contend with. (I know this is simplification at its best but simple is what I'm trying to be).

So typically, when a SC is fitted, and assuming no other modifications undertaken when it is, can we expect the percentage torque increase to be in line with the percentage power increase or, (as I seem to suspect but I don't know why) the torque gains are greater in percentage terms than the power gains. Oh, and if it makes any difference it's a 10.5:1 CR and a fairly lairy cam (somewhere between a Stealth and a 404)

I hope that makes sense to someone confused

Hi rich, yes it does make sense, however you will allways gain a higher percentage in torque than bhp, the reason for this is the cylinder has more time to fill the lower the rpm, also as the revs rise you get more and more pumping losses, (exhaust gasses trying to get out)

Chilliman

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12,423 posts

191 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Thanks Rob, can't wait to get this under way woohoo

R.

v8 racing

2,064 posts

281 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Chilliman said:
Thanks Rob, can't wait to get this under way woohoo

R.
No worries however i am going to nick your car for a day to see what it does down the strip!!

Chilliman

Original Poster:

12,423 posts

191 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Er, righto.... smile

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I wonder how many 450+ bhp Chims will be running by the end of 2013?

v8 racing

2,064 posts

281 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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well its about time i had one!