Header tank brass screw stuck
Header tank brass screw stuck
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FourWheelDrift

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92,257 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Want to check & top up the coolant on my car but neither I nor a friend can unscrew the brass screw on the header tank.

This is the first time on this car I have tried it and need a bit of tool advice.

How hard can it be tried and if it isn't a stupid question, it's not a reverse thread is it? (manual doesn't say)

Basically how hard can it be forced to open (engine is cold) and any advice on best tool to use.

Thanks.

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

300 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I normally use a long heavy duty screwdriver, layed lengthways in the brass screw aperure, and it avoids rapping your knuckles when you need to apply any pressure.

Just turn it anti-clockwise and Roberts your Fathers brother

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,257 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I did give it a go with a long screwdriver, it was bending it and I didn't want to put too much pressure on it, but I'll try again later.

Thanks.

.Markski

11,104 posts

305 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Pipe wrench should do the trick. Worked on mine.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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N17 TVR said:
I normally use a long heavy duty screwdriver, layed lengthways in the brass screw aperure, and it avoids rapping your knuckles when you need to apply any pressure.

Just turn it anti-clockwise and Roberts your Fathers brother


2nded, Does take some moving some times, prehaps put a length of tubing over the screw driver.
Or else can i advise you eat a few more pies FWD and get a bit of weight behind it.

BB

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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curse the bloke or woman that fitted it so blo*dy tight, then go get a hot air stripper .. heat teh alloy around the screw and try it again. once it's out coppergrease teh threads and refit it *not* so tightly .. it's only sealing 15psi pressure not holding the whole car together ..

it's often the same story with the blue pressure cap, the number of times i have to get the big grips onto the blue cap is amazing .. it's like people believe that the harder it's tightened down the better ..

ATG

23,698 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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The brass top on the swirl pot has got a bloody washer to seal it too. Absolutely no reason to tighten it so much.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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I usea 2 foot long prybar. Just need to bring it close to the swirl pot and the thing starts shaking in fear and voila the cap is undone.

stesrg

1,578 posts

267 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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Hmm had this problem a few years ago on a different car but same senario, used a blow lamp to heat up the outer circumferance of the plug and used a decent set of mole grips to shift it,a new different plug went into it then.

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,257 posts

313 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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All done, just gave a big pull using a long screwdriver. I was just wary before of how much force to use in case there was a knack or something like loosening something else to help.

Hardly needed to top it up either, just a little in the header tank, bled the radiator but had water straight away so no air and a little in the expansion tank to half way.



I'm off now for some pies.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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Several different layouts have been used, but the best one has a swirl tank in front of the distributor (with a plain brass plug) and an overflow tank with pressure cap at the front of the car. With this layout, the swirl tank will automatically top itself up from the overflow tank in normal use. All you need to do is make sure the overflow tank stays topped up. If the overflow tank does run dry, you may get air in the rest of the system. If it is only a little bit of air it will collect in the swirl tank and you can slowly pump it out to the overflow tank by repeatedly squashing and releasing the hoses, but it's probably easier to refill via the swirl tank. But you shouldn't get in this situation unless you've drained the system or you've had a coolant leak and the overflow tank has run dry.

JonRB

80,025 posts

301 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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I've had to use a rubber strap wrench (eg. Baby Boa) on the blue expansion tank before now.

First time I ever had to get the brass plug off the swirl tank I too had to use a 2 foot pry bar, but since then a long screwdriver does the trick.

alex.mcintosh

200 posts

307 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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Run the engine for a few minutes to heat up the swirl tank and then try to undo the brass screw a VERY small amount (!!) - much easier