Crank Pully Wheel Removal
Crank Pully Wheel Removal
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angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Finally got round to upgrading my fuel only megasquirt system to wasted spark ignition.

Plan is to fit the trigger wheel first. However it looks as though once the centre bolt is undone, the removable chassis crossmember will obstruct the removal of the complete unit.

I thought it may be possible to remove the front pulley section by undoing the 6 13mm bolts, and then removing the balancing section, without having to remove the crossmember and Y piece.

Has anyone tried this or able to confirm if it is possible?


phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Leave the exhaust in place, remove the swirl tank, 4 bolts and then remove the crossmember.

Much easier then fiddling around with dismantling the pulley.

Also, you should be replacing the pulley fully assembled.

Assuming a serp motor.

Edited by phazed on Saturday 19th January 16:08

Mr Supercharged

499 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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I had to remove my water pump pulley as well, but that's probably because of the supercharger installation. Phazed is right, just take the cross member out and undo the centre bolt. I used the JE trigger wheel and had it balanced by JE, then put the whole thing back as a single assembly. IMO it was the best trigger wheel kit to fit

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Managed to get the cross member out, put the car in 4th, chocked the wheels but can't shift the centre bolt, as the car is just moving backwards against the Chocks.
Will have another go tomorrow when the wife's about and get her to hold the brakes on. hopefully that will shift it. Otherwise might have to take it to a local garage.

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Can you borrow an impact driver?

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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I had to take my pulley apart on the crank, it wouldn't clear the chassis rail
I think it's six 1/2 inch bolts

Mr Supercharged

499 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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put the car in 5th this time, put the hand brake on and try again. It will undo!

Marty V8

578 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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angus99 said:
Managed to get the cross member out, put the car in 4th, chocked the wheels but can't shift the centre bolt, as the car is just moving backwards against the Chocks.
Will have another go tomorrow when the wife's about and get her to hold the brakes on. hopefully that will shift it. Otherwise might have to take it to a local garage.
Couldnt get mine to undo doing this either. Tried to undo the crank pulley bolt with a socket on the end of a long breaker bar whilst my wife sat in the drivers seat with two feet on the brake pedal and I still managed to get the car to move across the garage floor in gear. It was quite alarming as the 4ft breaker bar I was using was also bending under the strain.

Got a cordless impact wrench and it did the job in seconds

Edited by Marty V8 on Sunday 20th January 21:53

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Not much luck with the crank pulley, started to worry I would snap the breaker bar. or damage something.

Might have to try an impact wrench, although to get access I'll have to remove the Y piece and Exhaust first , which I was trying to avoid. Really need to get the trigger wheel fitted so that I can get the ECU sent over to Phil to ad the spark drivers.

On a positive note I did manage to fit the P38 coil packs behind the plenum, with a minor mod to the Bracket. so at least I now know this fits.

Trial fit


Plenum Temporarily replaced to judge clearance





Mr Supercharged

499 posts

187 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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I am curious to know what mod you had to make to the bracket. Mine fitted straight out of the packet. I have heard that some cars have different fuel rails fitted. What year of manufacture is your car? What did you have to modify and where?

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Just had to cut down height of the near side bracket to fit under the fuel pipe.


Edited by angus99 on Tuesday 22 January 00:02

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Finally got the pulley off. Combination of an electric heat gun and breaker bar extension ( £3.85 steel table leg from B&Q) did the trick. Also had to remove the other pully above it to get it out.

Next hassle is dismantling the pulley assembly. My 13mm 1/2" drive socket won't fit, and I can't get enough leverage with the 1/4"drive sockets. Should be easy enough to sort out tomorrow though.


SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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angus99 said:
Finally got the pulley off. Combination of an electric heat gun and breaker bar extension ( £3.85 steel table leg from B&Q) did the trick. Also had to remove the other pully above it to get it out.

Next hassle is dismantling the pulley assembly. My 13mm 1/2" drive socket won't fit, and I can't get enough leverage with the 1/4"drive sockets. Should be easy enough to sort out tomorrow though.
Where is your trigger wheel sensor mounted ? Mine seems very close the the exhaust ! is that normal.

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Daz, hopefully get the sensor fitted tomorrow, will post a pic once done.

dbv8

8,676 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
Where is your trigger wheel sensor mounted ? Mine seems very close the the exhaust ! is that normal.
So is mine. I added some heat shielding (same as on the inner wings) and not had a problem.

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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angus99 said:
Next hassle is dismantling the pulley assembly. My 13mm 1/2" drive socket won't fit, and I can't get enough leverage with the 1/4"drive sockets. Should be easy enough to sort out tomorrow though.
The engine bolts are AF so a 1/2" AF socket will fit better.

Sardonicus

19,458 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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phazed said:
angus99 said:
Next hassle is dismantling the pulley assembly. My 13mm 1/2" drive socket won't fit, and I can't get enough leverage with the 1/4"drive sockets. Should be easy enough to sort out tomorrow though.
The engine bolts are AF so a 1/2" AF socket will fit better.
yes a 3/8 drive thin walled 1/2" socket wink if you don't have one then just grind the outer case of a standard one down (always handy for the tool kit) the bolts wont be megger tight anyway wink I would be inclined to renew that C/S bolt now especially yours being a 500 model scratchchin just for insurance idea


Edited by Sardonicus on Tuesday 22 January 10:55

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I used 1/4 in mine, it's just a case of man the f*%#k up

angus99

Original Poster:

625 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Had a go at fitting the sensor and trigger wheel today, but had a couple of problems.

loosely fitted the trigger wheel, on the crank and then trial fitted the sensor so that I could mark the position relative to TDC.


Then repositioned the trigger wheel so that the missing tooth was located 50deg Ahead of the sensor. As shown belowfrownWhite mark is TDC, brown mark is the position of the sensor with the engine at TDC, so missing tooth should be at fifty degrees?)



Thought this was correct, but now not so sure as the bolt holes don't match up. Additionally the location pin that goes though the assembly obstructs the trigger wheel from fitting flush to the


mattrosersv

579 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Anyone happen to have the torque for the six pulley bolts handy?

Cheers,

Matt