Sump removal, advice.
Sump removal, advice.
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chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Thanks everyone for the advice on my oil leek thread! I thought I would be better moving this part here.

The sump gasket is cream-crackered, oozing out of the edges.

I need to replace the sump gasket. What is the best way to go about it and how much oil will actually drain from the sump if I remove it as a whole?

I was considering placing the car on stands and then removing the sump nut and draining into the oil into an old baby bath, before removing the sump and cleaning the mating faces with meths, then replacing in the reverse order with a new gasket. Would this be the right way or should I just remove the sump without draining, save my self some oil and fit the gasket?

Do I need to drain the sump at all if I'm removing it? How much oil would be in it?

I was going to go for a cork gasket to replace the silicone one.

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black and green

669 posts

221 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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I would drain the oil first, otherwise you have a shallow dish containing 5 litres of oil balanced precariously above your chest and face....

If you can, aquire a couple of studs to thread into the block once you have removed the sump and cleaned off the old gasket material. I found it helped to align the sump when refitting. Once you have get half a dozen bolts in then you can removed the studs.

pk500

1,975 posts

242 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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I would drain it first about 7 ish ltr of oil in it i used a land rover gasket with a smear of gasket maker !

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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You must drain it first, it's not really worth using the oil again unless you want any grit or crap going back in your engine,
New cork gasket with a very very thin smear of instant gasket on both sides of the gasket, don't use silicone type sealant or you risk blocking the pick up

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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I use a bin smear of Hylomar on both sides of the gasket.

The 2 studs are a good idea, they make it a doodle to align the sump.

I fitted 2 studs to mine, one midway down both sides.

When I got my engine back from the builder all those months ago, guess what, they were gone!


pk500

1,975 posts

242 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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dont ever use gasket sealer on cork gaskets ! use a smear of grease on cork!
Discopotatoes said:
You must drain it first, it's not really worth using the oil again unless you want any grit or crap going back in your engine,
New cork gasket with a very very thin smear of instant gasket on both sides of the gasket, don't use silicone type sealant or you risk blocking the pick up
Edited by pk500 on Tuesday 19th February 20:40

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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What ever you use, those cork gaskets get soggy after a while.

Why don't they make a nice preformed rubber one?

pk500

1,975 posts

242 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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land rover ones are material not cork !

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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pk500 said:
dont ever use gasket sealer on cork gaskets ! use a smear of grease on cork!
Discopotatoes said:
You must drain it first, it's not really worth using the oil again unless you want any grit or crap going back in your engine,
New cork gasket with a very very thin smear of instant gasket on both sides of the gasket, don't use silicone type sealant or you risk blocking the pick up
Edited by pk500 on Tuesday 19th February 20:40
Every day's a school day, I actually have the pressed card type gasket on mine which cost 20 off eBay as Peter said it would be nice to have a rubber one

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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pk500 said:
land rover ones are material not cork !
Interesting as every gasket I've had from a Landy outlet has been cork?

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Hoofa said:
There are some on eBay not cheap but I am trying one this time around
That's the one I have

Hoofa

3,153 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Discopotatoes said:
pk500 said:
dont ever use gasket sealer on cork gaskets ! use a smear of grease on cork!
Discopotatoes said:
You must drain it first, it's not really worth using the oil again unless you want any grit or crap going back in your engine,
New cork gasket with a very very thin smear of instant gasket on both sides of the gasket, don't use silicone type sealant or you risk blocking the pick up
Edited by pk500 on Tuesday 19th February 20:40
Every day's a school day, I actually have the pressed card type gasket on mine which cost 20 off eBay as Peter said it would be nice to have a rubber one
How well is the gasket holding up ?, just bought one too from eBay, they also do ones for the plenum so going to try them rather than blue hylomar

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Hoofa said:
Discopotatoes said:
pk500 said:
dont ever use gasket sealer on cork gaskets ! use a smear of grease on cork!
Discopotatoes said:
You must drain it first, it's not really worth using the oil again unless you want any grit or crap going back in your engine,
New cork gasket with a very very thin smear of instant gasket on both sides of the gasket, don't use silicone type sealant or you risk blocking the pick up
Edited by pk500 on Tuesday 19th February 20:40
Every day's a school day, I actually have the pressed card type gasket on mine which cost 20 off eBay as Peter said it would be nice to have a rubber one
How well is the gasket holding up ?, just bought one too from eBay, they also do ones for the plenum so going to try them rather than blue hylomar
No leaks, and I used grease to help it seal not sealant

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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phazed said:
That's it, its compressed card
Or fibre board

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Ah, only time will tell I guess scratchchin

chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Discopotatoes said:
That's it, its compressed card
Or fibre board
How long have you had it fitted?

chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Thanks for your replies everyone. I'll have a go at this later this week. Hopefully, that should clear the majority of the leaking oil.

Do any of you clean the sump out?

Also, do I need to do anything like prime the oil pump afterwards or partially refill the sump with a little oil before refitting?

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Just clean the sump, put it in te dishwasher smile

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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chris1972 said:
Discopotatoes said:
That's it, its compressed card
Or fibre board
How long have you had it fitted?
About 6 months