Done my sump gasket... eventually!
Done my sump gasket... eventually!
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chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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And looking at it not a moment too soon. The old gasket had completely deteriorated and a lot of it had fallen back into the sump and found its way into the base of the oil pickup pipe, which probably explains why my oil light began to take a couple seconds to go out. This was probably exacerbated by me tightening the sump up a couple of times recently to stem the leaking, so I'm grateful I've done very few miles since! To be fair, other than the bits of sump gasket, the oil was spotless and pretty clean.

Cleaned everything out, put the new Ebay fibre gasket on with a good smearing Hylomar on both sides and used new bolts with spring washers to put it back on. I thought this would be a real pain to do using axel stands, but the fibre gasket made it much less fiddly as it stayed nicely in place without the need for studs to help locate it. I just supported the sump using the trolley jack and then secured using a few screw bolts, before adding the spreader plate and the remaining bolts. Started up and the oil light extinguishes almost immediately.

On with a few more jobs now... looking forward to summer, but it seems a long way off. Snow at the end of March, whatever next!?

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jojackson4

3,049 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Thats what mine looked like but with no gasket all sealer now looks like this

chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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I was tempted to paint mine, but didn't have the time as I wanted to get it on before the weather closed in again. Cold and bright yesterday... snow today!

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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I developed a leak after last Saturdays TD.

Even though the gasket hadn't been on long it was a thin nasty one.

I may try a silicon seal without a gasket as recommended by Simon and some Rover places!

Nice clean job though!

jojackson4

3,049 posts

167 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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phazed said:
I developed a leak after last Saturdays TD.

Even though the gasket hadn't been on long it was a thin nasty one.

I may try a silicon seal without a gasket as recommended by Simon and some Rover places!

Nice clean job though!
Mine was a no gasket job and still leaked and was a complete acre to get off

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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phazed said:
I developed a leak after last Saturdays TD.

Even though the gasket hadn't been on long it was a thin nasty one.

I may try a silicon seal without a gasket as recommended by Simon and some Rover places!

Nice clean job though!
Why not try Spends idea sounds good to me. As its foam it should squash into all the imperfections and self adhesive side on the sump helps with keeping it in place

Sardonicus

19,457 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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phazed said:
I developed a leak after last Saturdays TD.

Even though the gasket hadn't been on long it was a thin nasty one.

I may try a silicon seal without a gasket as recommended by Simon and some Rover places!

Nice clean job though!
If you remove the sump on an original TVR Power engine build (done 2) you will realize that they know exactly how to use the sealer correctly nice uniform bead no break off's finding their way into the pick up etc, personally I like to use a gasket but providing you use grease/oil free surfaces and run a nice thin bead (no spreading) you will get exactly what your after.

chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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It looked like a cork gasket originally. I was impressed with the one of Ebay. Just hope it holds out.

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Did the ebay gasket last night.

Using the car today to se how it holds.

If this leaks, I've some soupa expensive German sump mastic stuff which I've been told is what LR use on 4.0/4.6 engines!

chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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Have you used new bolts/ spring washers? The old ones I took of mine weren't up to much.

db418BHP

8,676 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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chris1972 said:
Have you used new bolts/ spring washers? The old ones I took of mine weren't up to much.
I cant see why the old ones arent re-usable. They are only lightly torqued.
Also most have been well protected will lashings of engine oil through their service life hehe

db418BHP

8,676 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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chris1972 said:
Have you used new bolts/ spring washers? The old ones I took of mine weren't up to much.
I cant see why the old ones arent re-usable. They are only lightly torqued.
Also most have been well protected will lashings of engine oil through their service life hehe

chris1972

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167 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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On comparison to the new bolts and springs washers, my existing one were were pretty flat (more washer and less spring). And for the sake of a few quid for a new set, it seemed the common sense thing to do. I notice a lot people seem to be using Loctite etc for the bolts, whereas the new washers should hopefully keep the in place and nicely torqued.

A suggestion only!

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-SH505051
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GHF331


spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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chris1972 said:
...I notice a lot people seem to be using Loctite etc for the bolts...
You may be getting confused there... Not all the bolt holes are blind, some (particularly on the cross bolted engines) can leak oil down the threads. In the case of those you may have misread where people use thread sealant or sealant/stud lock when replacing with studs.

Split spring washers are used because the clamping torque is quite low on the sump so they need a bit of help to prevent loosening, but as usual TVR gorillas will be tempted to tighten them dead flat wink

chris1972

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Thursday 28th March 2013
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spend said:
You may be getting confused there... Not all the bolt holes are blind, some (particularly on the cross bolted engines) can leak oil down the threads. In the case of those you may have misread where people use thread sealant or sealant/stud lock when replacing with studs.

Split spring washers are used because the clamping torque is quite low on the sump so they need a bit of help to prevent loosening, but as usual TVR gorillas will be tempted to tighten them dead flat wink
Got it!