Registering a chim in France
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My chim is currently up for sale and one of the guys interested is from France.
He thinks it's quite difficult to register a chim in France, and did mention something about keeping it on UK plates (can't understand how that would work though).
Has anyone sold a chim to someone from France, or even registered one over there?
According to the dvla the new keeper keeps the main part of the V5 and I write to the dvla to tell them the car's been exported. If I do that surely he couldn't keep driving it on UK plates could he?
Thanks
He thinks it's quite difficult to register a chim in France, and did mention something about keeping it on UK plates (can't understand how that would work though).
Has anyone sold a chim to someone from France, or even registered one over there?
According to the dvla the new keeper keeps the main part of the V5 and I write to the dvla to tell them the car's been exported. If I do that surely he couldn't keep driving it on UK plates could he?
Thanks
. Let him worry about legality - as long as you fill the form in correctly and the car is shown as out of the country, it's not your problem if the Gendamerie fThe OP's prospective French buyer should PM my mate "ninelevent" who I'm sure will be happy to explain how it all works.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0...
He's registered two Chimaeras in France, one 5.0 litre & one 4.0 litre, here's me last summer chasing one of his French registered Chims near Carcassonne.
From what he's told me, registering a TVR in France is becoming more difficult, especially if the car was UK registered after 1996, earlier cars are easier for some reason?
Apparently registering a 5.0 litre is also more tricky than a 4.0 litre, something to do with what's recorded by the French DVLA as being officially sold in France when current.
I'm not sure but perhaps TVR pulled out of the French market in 96?
Anyway, "ninelevent" has all the answers, he has a personal car museum with over 70 cars, many of them British.
The prospective buyer could also PM another mate of mine "pbaker43" who has registered his Chimaera 450 in France, I'm sure Phil will be happy help too.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...
Here's Phil & I a couple of years ago after a giving our TVRs a good work out up in the Alps Maritimes, as you can see Phil's blue Chim is also French registered.
By all accounts registering a Chimaera in France is not easy, but clearly it can be done
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0...
He's registered two Chimaeras in France, one 5.0 litre & one 4.0 litre, here's me last summer chasing one of his French registered Chims near Carcassonne.
From what he's told me, registering a TVR in France is becoming more difficult, especially if the car was UK registered after 1996, earlier cars are easier for some reason?
Apparently registering a 5.0 litre is also more tricky than a 4.0 litre, something to do with what's recorded by the French DVLA as being officially sold in France when current.
I'm not sure but perhaps TVR pulled out of the French market in 96?
Anyway, "ninelevent" has all the answers, he has a personal car museum with over 70 cars, many of them British.
The prospective buyer could also PM another mate of mine "pbaker43" who has registered his Chimaera 450 in France, I'm sure Phil will be happy help too.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...
Here's Phil & I a couple of years ago after a giving our TVRs a good work out up in the Alps Maritimes, as you can see Phil's blue Chim is also French registered.
By all accounts registering a Chimaera in France is not easy, but clearly it can be done
Edited by ChimpOnGas on Monday 8th April 08:40
Thanks both.
The prospective buyer has been in touch with whoever is responsible for registering cars in France and they need copies of the V5/Vin number before they can tell him whether it will be possible to register.
Will the car then need an mot type test before they register it?
The prospective buyer has been in touch with whoever is responsible for registering cars in France and they need copies of the V5/Vin number before they can tell him whether it will be possible to register.
Will the car then need an mot type test before they register it?
Certificate of conformity is required, difficult now without TVR being a live business, still possible without, Griffiths never were built for France, but Chimaeras were and are more easily registered are Cert's exist.
If he can not get a certificate of conformity he will have to go through the process of changing lights etc, gaining a Controle Techinque - French MOT, then he'll have to get the Drire to inspect it. Best to establish a relationship with them first. It can take 2wks to 2yrs. There's plenty of info on the French TVRCC site.
Also, there is now a first registration tax, emissions based I think which might sting him when he realises how much it is, but I don't know enough details.
As a French resident he'd be ale to insure for probably 6mths before he'd have to register it etc.
If he can not get a certificate of conformity he will have to go through the process of changing lights etc, gaining a Controle Techinque - French MOT, then he'll have to get the Drire to inspect it. Best to establish a relationship with them first. It can take 2wks to 2yrs. There's plenty of info on the French TVRCC site.
Also, there is now a first registration tax, emissions based I think which might sting him when he realises how much it is, but I don't know enough details.
As a French resident he'd be ale to insure for probably 6mths before he'd have to register it etc.
TVR in France is not that difficult.
Firstly
If you live in France, you can only drive on UK plates for 6 months this is the law after this time the car has to be registered in the country, or returned back to the UK for 6 months.
Ensure the National Type Number starts with e11*x x x x x x if there is no e11* it will not be accepted for registration in France as the e11* denotes the car is acceptable in the EU.
Go the 'control technique'(MOT) and obtain a certificate this will have the French CV (hp) of the car depending on the engine 16 or 18CV
Go to the tax office and register that it’s your car and there is no tax to pay, (this is not normally needed but it keeps the French happy because it is paper work), there is a cost of about 50 euros.
Ensure the car is insured with a French company AXA another.
With all of the above including the old UK documentation saying that the car owner has changed and exported to France go visit the prefecture to obtain the ‘Grey card’ (‘Certificat d’immatriculation’ reg docs in France), take a paper and crossword, I waited for 3hrs in the morning and 2 hrs after lunch to obtain the grey card. Depending on the region the cost is between 400 to 700 euros, this is a one off payment for the life of the car.
On the grey card there will be the new reg number, go to the local ‘feu vert’ obtain the plates and fit them, DO NOT let the garage fit the plates they just drill anywhere and bang rivets in, the front have screws and need to be aligned the back is stuck on.
Please note – there are some issues with ‘back lit’ number plates I have heard that some CT garages will not give a paper because the reg plates in France are either metal or full plastic, so the rear number plate has to be the recessed type, as per mine the BLUE one with Chimpongas
Hope this helps
Firstly
If you live in France, you can only drive on UK plates for 6 months this is the law after this time the car has to be registered in the country, or returned back to the UK for 6 months.
Ensure the National Type Number starts with e11*x x x x x x if there is no e11* it will not be accepted for registration in France as the e11* denotes the car is acceptable in the EU.
Go the 'control technique'(MOT) and obtain a certificate this will have the French CV (hp) of the car depending on the engine 16 or 18CV
Go to the tax office and register that it’s your car and there is no tax to pay, (this is not normally needed but it keeps the French happy because it is paper work), there is a cost of about 50 euros.
Ensure the car is insured with a French company AXA another.
With all of the above including the old UK documentation saying that the car owner has changed and exported to France go visit the prefecture to obtain the ‘Grey card’ (‘Certificat d’immatriculation’ reg docs in France), take a paper and crossword, I waited for 3hrs in the morning and 2 hrs after lunch to obtain the grey card. Depending on the region the cost is between 400 to 700 euros, this is a one off payment for the life of the car.
On the grey card there will be the new reg number, go to the local ‘feu vert’ obtain the plates and fit them, DO NOT let the garage fit the plates they just drill anywhere and bang rivets in, the front have screws and need to be aligned the back is stuck on.
Please note – there are some issues with ‘back lit’ number plates I have heard that some CT garages will not give a paper because the reg plates in France are either metal or full plastic, so the rear number plate has to be the recessed type, as per mine the BLUE one with Chimpongas
Hope this helps
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