Urgent roadside help please!!
Urgent roadside help please!!
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Andy_mr2sc

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1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Ok so I've just stopped my car for 5 minutes to take a phone call. When I went to start it its acting as if the battery is flat. The fuel pump is struggling to work and it keeps setting the alarm off.
I've checked the big fuse and that's fine. It's got a hot start kit fitted but I don't think that's the issue anyway.
Has this happened to anyone on here and can u point me in the right direction if possible as I'm stranded in the middle of nowhere!!

mr shifty

249 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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If you turn the ignition and the dash lights up but you don't hear the fuel pump prime, it could be the immobiliser.

Make sure both passenger and driver door are shut and lock the car with the remote. Then unlock and try again.

Andy_mr2sc

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1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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The alarm won't even lock the doors. I can't wind the window up. If I turn the headlights on it thinks the batteries been disconnected and sets the alarm off. I'm suspecting dodgy earth but don't know where to start looking. I've pulled a few fuses but most are unreachable.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

220 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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If i was you with the light time you have take a deep breath de stress phone the AA or RAC.... trailer it home then sort it


hope you have cover!

Andy_mr2sc

Original Poster:

1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Why would I need cover like that with something as reliable as this?
Don't answer that...

K12beano

20,854 posts

301 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Whatever it is, I can guarantee it's a "feature".






And more seriously - I'm sending you good vibes; that's all a TVR owner ever needs!

Meths

2,063 posts

162 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Where are you stuck??

Edited by Meths on Saturday 18th May 20:55

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Check both connections at your battery are good & tight.

Harrytsg

1,264 posts

188 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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100 amp fuse on chassis rail near starter motor, possibly another near battery?


Andy_mr2sc

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1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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The one in the footwell is ok. I didn't know about the one on the chassis rail. Any idea what it protects?

Harrytsg

1,264 posts

188 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Main feed from alternator to battery, known to be fragile if original.

Andy_mr2sc

Original Poster:

1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Just got a tow back to a mates. Will look tomorrow in daylight. Battery terminals are tight.

scruggs

419 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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If the 100 amp fuse lets go you should get a permanent ignition warning light with the engine running. Some times you can miss it if it does not catch your eye.

Charge the battery up and start it if you can. If you get an ignition warning light then go to the aggro of getting a long way underneath to check the fuse. If you do not get the permanent light then the problem may be elsewhere.

QBee

22,273 posts

170 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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scruggs said:
If the 100 amp fuse lets go you should get a permanent ignition warning light with the engine running. Some times you can miss it if it does not catch your eye.

Charge the battery up and start it if you can. If you get an ignition warning light then go to the aggro of getting a long way underneath to check the fuse. If you do not get the permanent light then the problem may be elsewhere.
Didn't get that the twice I lost mine. You have been running on battery for about 40 miles.
Fuse is under the car, driver's side, strapped to the chassis underside in a fuse holder. you can follow the cable down from the alternator. Fuse is logically placed if you were a TVR builder and the car is up on a hoist. To you and me it's just plain stupid.
Jack up the car as if to remove driver's side front wheel, insert axle stand, get under and find the fuse. Open the holder and inspect fuse. Test with multimeter. If you get a reading from the front end, the fuse is ok.
If you dont have a spare fuse, just undo both nuts (8mm I think) and connect the terminals together on one thread and try ignition. Car may start. Go for midi fuses off Fleabay.

Andy_mr2sc

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1,236 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Thanks for the tips gents. I'll have a look in the morning and hopefully get a result.
Back home now with beer and a kebab to feed and drown my sorrow.

QBee

22,273 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Ps the fuse is about level with the back of the driver's side front wheel, so taking the wheel off gives you more access. The fuse holder is black, about two inches by one inch, will be strapped to the main driver's side lower chassis member that goes front to back. It might be wrapped in tape. You can easily get to it if you slide under on you back from the front of the car, without taking the wheel off - I did on my last track day.
Inside the fuse holder is a metal blade fuse, about one inch long, held in place by a nut at each end.
The fuse protects the charging circuit from overloads.
I would replace it with a midi fuse off EBay.


If you have a multimeter you can check it without all this faff. Multimeters are £20 from Halfrauds, or you can get the same one for £8 from Maplins. Use the volts 0-20 setting. Find the cable at the back of the alternator that heads down to side of the engine, find an earth (engine block) for the other terminal, then stick your live probe onto the terminal at the bak of the alternator, or ram it into the lead itself. If your fuse is ok, you will be able to see 12 volts coming from the battery with the ignition off.
By the way, if you can get the car started, you will get a reading of about 14.2 volts in exactly the same place if your alternator is healthy. Good double test!

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

283 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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The symptoms you describe sound exactly like mine when the battery failed. In my case I had stopped to fill up with fuel.

Andy_mr2sc

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1,236 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Ok so it's not any of the fuses. Thanks for the alternator fuse info; I didn't t know it was there.
A friend has suggested battery failure as well. I have never heard of this being intermittent but that's not to say it can't be of course. I was aering towards the alarm because it doesn't seem able to make up its mind what to do but I don't know if its the cause or effect.

NiceCupOfTea

25,563 posts

277 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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You can further check a battery with a load tester - any decent car parts shop should have one and will test a battery for you. Sometimes they read fine but as soon as there as a load across them they can't supply any current.

Whereabouts are you?

Andy_mr2sc

Original Poster:

1,236 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Colin RedGrif--- Top Man!
Replaced battery with a borrowed one and off it went. New battery on tomorrow then 2hrs putting the dash back on, rebuilding the fuse board, steering column surround etc etc.
Chuffed its sorted without a big auto electrician bill though.
Thanks everyone!