Brembo 4 pot brake conversion
Brembo 4 pot brake conversion
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Andav469

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963 posts

158 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I wanted to upgrade the brakes to Brembo 4 pots, but wanted to keep the original Estoril wheels.

I had to change the wheels to 16" to get the clearance as the discs used are 324mm from a RS Focus.

Original brake set up:-



Old disc and new disc side by side:-



Disc and Calipers fitted:-



Bloody tight but the wheel fits with 6mm spacers:-



The whole conversion cost £350, a hefty brake upgrade for little money!

Many thanks go to Alex (Gasmunkey) and Rigga (Martin) for help and support

Edited by Andav469 on Thursday 6th June 20:49

spikep

500 posts

303 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Hi
Have you got the part numbers and did the brake calipers just mount direct to the ford upright?

GasMunkey

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200 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Cough

Andav469

Original Poster:

963 posts

158 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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spikep said:
Hi
Have you got the part numbers and did the brake calipers just mount direct to the ford upright?
The calipers are from a BMW E38 (sourced from ABCalipers on eBay) £170
The Discs are Focus RS Cosworth (2wheel drive) £88
The adaptor bracket came from EBay at £60 (oldphonebloke)
Pads are OEM BMW E38 Pads £30

The adaptor plates require the original caliper mounting holes on the stub axle to be tapped out to 12mm to accept the bolts that come with the adaptor plates, very easy to do as the original holes are the perfect clearance size for tapping out to 12mm, no drilling required

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Edited by Andav469 on Thursday 6th June 20:52

SILICONEKID350HP

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252 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I wonder if they would fit behind 16" Team Dynamics pro Race ..

When you say tapped do you mean you have to make a thread ?



Edited by SILICONEKID350HP on Thursday 6th June 21:10

rigga

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222 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Andav469 said:
Many thanks go to Alex (Gasmunkey) and Rigga (Martin) for help and support
Your welcome thumbup and I guess. Alex wins the bet as they do fit under 16's biggrin



(I knew they would obviously) wink

Andav469

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158 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
I wonder if they would fit behind 16" Team Dynamics pro Race ..

When yopu say tapped do you mean you have to make a thread ?

Edited by SILICONEKID350HP on Thursday 6th June 21:03
Yes, I had to make a thread in the clearance holes in the stub axle.

Happy to try your wheel on my car, I'm in Peterborough

GasMunkey

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200 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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rigga said:
Your welcome thumbup and I guess. Alex wins the bet as they do fit under 16's biggrin



(I knew they would obviously) wink
How's the sun roof coming along?

rigga

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Thursday 6th June 2013
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GasMunkey said:
How's the sun roof coming along?
Might take a while as for some reason I've mislaid the garage keys ... wink

SILICONEKID350HP

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Thursday 6th June 2013
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Andav469 said:
Yes, I had to make a thread in the clearance holes in the stub axle.

Happy to try your wheel on my car, I'm in Peterborough
Thanks but something had to be drilled out to fit the Cosworth upgrade ..I think they had to be drilled out ..
Would this stop me doing this brake upgrade.

Andav469

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Thursday 6th June 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
Thanks but something had to be drilled out to fit the Cosworth upgrade ..I think they had to be drilled out ..
Would this stop me doing this brake upgrade.
No as the bolts that go through the stub axle, have plenty of room to fit a nylon nut

rigga

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Thursday 6th June 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
Thanks but something had to be drilled out to fit the Cosworth upgrade ..I think they had to be drilled out ..
Would this stop me doing this brake upgrade.
Depends what size you drilled the hubs out to Daz, there is only so much metal there to work with.
Though as David says above there are possible work arounds if you don't have the material left to tap.

SILICONEKID350HP

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252 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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rigga said:
Depends what size you drilled the hubs out to Daz, there is only so much metal there to work with.
http://www.rv8r.co.uk/brakeupgrade.html


12mm holes.


Bassfiend229hp

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271 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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SILICONEKID350HP said:
rigga said:
Depends what size you drilled the hubs out to Daz, there is only so much metal there to work with.
http://www.rv8r.co.uk/brakeupgrade.html


12mm holes.

Yup - mine's done the same ... I just couldn't remember whether it was 10mm or 12mm they'd been drilled out to. biggrin

rigga

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222 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Have to go with Dave's suggestion of bolts and locking nuts at the rear then.

Going larger by taping a thread into the 12mm hole you have already drilled would I think not leave enough metal to be strong on a brake set up.

Edited by rigga on Thursday 6th June 21:35

lestershaw

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179 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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Nice job you have done there, it looks great, especially with the new white bits behind, First class

was that for all 4 wheels? im about to do something similar on my xjr

Andav469

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Friday 7th June 2013
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That is just for the front brakes, my car is the 500 so already has the larger 273mm vented discs on the rear.

Pete500

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265 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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What about brake balance? Seems that you have a lot up front now....!

Andav469

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Friday 7th June 2013
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Pete500 said:
What about brake balance? Seems that you have a lot up front now....!
80% of the braking comes from the front and the rears on the 500 are 273mm so I don't see an issue.

SILICONEKID350HP

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Friday 7th June 2013
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Andav469 said:
80% of the braking comes from the front and the rears on the 500 are 273mm so I don't see an issue.
What rear brakes do you have ?