Clamping Water Hoses...
Discussion
Alan461 said:
You won't go far wrong with Mikalor but they have a narrow range of adjustment so you have to select the right one for the job
Yeah - I'd noticed... 
I'm expecting that the 47-51mm will be the ones to go for as I've measured the OD of the ACT hose that I have spare at 47mm...
The W2 clamps are expensive enough but the W4 ones are enough to make your eyes water given that you need 8 of 'em.
Phil
Mark. said:
What's the problem with Jubliee clips? These look similar just a different securing mechanism.
Jubilee clips just pull against the edge of a worm gear whereas those have a bolt and strap arrangement that's much more mechanically solid. I always think that jubilee clips just feel a bit flimsy in use. 
jamienshelly said:
With those type clamps you have to be very careful if putting a pipe onto a plastic or cast neck (thermostat housing etc) as they will break them very easily.
I prefer these for day to day use & for the quick release and superior even clamping 
which I know Jamie appreciates on a daily basis 
I may just be biased as the company I work for are in direct competition with mikalor and I do believe that we offer a better product and have seen the damage they can cause through different company's coming back after buying from mikalor.
But it also is the users choice in what they want. Looking at the pictures they are looking at worm drive clamps and heavy duty bolts where a smaller clamp. 1 ear step less will do the job. I'm always happy to help fellow pistonheads. As we don't like any1 breaking down
But it also is the users choice in what they want. Looking at the pictures they are looking at worm drive clamps and heavy duty bolts where a smaller clamp. 1 ear step less will do the job. I'm always happy to help fellow pistonheads. As we don't like any1 breaking down
Grandad7184 said:
Have you not tryed Stepless clamps which will be cheaper and will still hold the same tolernces of the mikalor clamp.
I did have a look at those but wasn't sure exactly how they worked and whether you needed a specific tool to fit them...Grandad7184 said:
They will fail or damage the hose as they are not perfect hence why there cheap.
Are you meaning the Mikalors? I have to say I've had Jubilee clips nip into hoses but on the few occasions that I've used those Mikalor type clamps in the past I've not had any issues - that's why I asked what the assembled opinions were about them.Grandad7184 said:
What are you looking for as I may be able to help
I'm going to be stripping apart the cooling system on the Chim, replacing the water pump and the remaining solid hoses with ACT ones (already have the ACT silicone hoses on there) but - as I've always disliked Jubilee clips - was thinking that I'd replace them with something more solid at the same time as I had the cooling system apart. Phil
Grandad7184 said:
I may just be biased as the company I work for are in direct competition with mikalor and I do believe that we offer a better product and have seen the damage they can cause through different company's coming back after buying from mikalor.
But it also is the users choice in what they want. Looking at the pictures they are looking at worm drive clamps and heavy duty bolts where a smaller clamp. 1 ear step less will do the job. I'm always happy to help fellow pistonheads. As we don't like any1 breaking down
If they're a better product then I'm happy to be convinced - I have no problem buying any specific tooling if it's required. Just want to do the job once. But it also is the users choice in what they want. Looking at the pictures they are looking at worm drive clamps and heavy duty bolts where a smaller clamp. 1 ear step less will do the job. I'm always happy to help fellow pistonheads. As we don't like any1 breaking down
Phil
Well with the mikalor clamps they don't get burred after welding and assembly so they small fragments of metal will rub away at the hose where it is the tightest point and in time it will fail.
The 1 ear clamps com in different forms some with inserts and without but you do require a tool but it can be bought anywhere and maybe even a good set of pilers will do it. Ill pm you some more details as. Depending in the diameter you may be able to you use a standard clamp but there also is heavy duty clamps used on Hgv's
Al.
The 1 ear clamps com in different forms some with inserts and without but you do require a tool but it can be bought anywhere and maybe even a good set of pilers will do it. Ill pm you some more details as. Depending in the diameter you may be able to you use a standard clamp but there also is heavy duty clamps used on Hgv's
Al.
Edited by Grandad7184 on Wednesday 12th June 13:32
jamienshelly said:
I even spent good money (lots of it) on the clip removal kit.
And dont they speed removing and refitting up, 1st time I was introduced to these hose clips was being on the tools at a Honda franchise in the mid eighties & I loved em 
fit them & done no nipping up or hose cutting worries 
even the Yanks (Chrysler) back in the sixties used something similar 
Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 12th June 14:45
They are a lot better than the ones ford use, Those single use efforts like you get on a CV boot.
Especially when you can barely get to them, let alone undo them.
Phil, We use a beefed up version of a Jubilee clip that's wider and has a bigger screw (8mm), I will try to find names and details tonight for you and let you know later, I may even have a few "spares" knocking about.
Especially when you can barely get to them, let alone undo them.
Phil, We use a beefed up version of a Jubilee clip that's wider and has a bigger screw (8mm), I will try to find names and details tonight for you and let you know later, I may even have a few "spares" knocking about.
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