Engine conversion

[james280779]

Just thinking about when the engine on the Chimaera eventually gives up, I would like to drop something different in (already done a Cosworth S).

Has anyone considered the engine from the gen 3 supercharged RangeRover? its a Jaguar AJ-V8 4.2 pushing out between 385- 395 bhp and fairly cheap/ easy to get hold of (around 3k for one fully refurbed inc supercharger). Is it a viable option?

I really dont want to go the LS route

thanks

[rigga]

I think its been discussed before, but the distance between the chassis rails limits the amount of different engines that can be fitted, 2 valve head motors like the LS series are narrower than a four valve engine so have a better chance of physically fitting.

[300bhp/ton]

james280779 said:

Just thinking about when the engine on the Chimaera eventually gives up, I would like to drop something different in (already done a Cosworth S).

Has anyone considered the engine from the gen 3 supercharged RangeRover? its a Jaguar AJ-V8 4.2 pushing out between 385- 395 bhp and fairly cheap/ easy to get hold of (around 3k for one fully refurbed inc supercharger). Is it a viable option?

I really dont want to go the LS route

thanks

Any reason you wouldn't want to go for an LSx? The Jag unit is nice and quite compact for a DOHC unit. But it's got to be a more costly and complex way of achieving slightly more weight and slightly less performance than an LSx would.

I guess the Chrysler Hemi engines could make a good swap, technically they are very capable, they are also compact and lightweight and proven to make good power. 5.7, 6.1 and 6.4 litre variants. Not sure there's much experience in the UK using these though.

[NickM450]

There was that Orange Chim a while ago, if I remember correctly it had a Supercharged Ford V8.

Compare sizes of the lumps and I'm sure if your pockets are deep enough and/or have the skills, then it can be done

[neal1980]

Ls all the way there is so many diffrent models and specs you could build. And with parts avilable to literally bolt them in you cant go wrong :-) I mean 500bhp to 2000bhp you pick

[chris1972]

NickM450 said:

There was that Orange Chim a while ago, if I remember correctly it had a Supercharged Ford V8.

Compare sizes of the lumps and I'm sure if your pockets are deep enough and/or have the skills, then it can be done

Mustang engine from what I recall. Keane Bell I think. Search for it on YouTube.

[300bhp/ton]

chris1972 said:

NickM450 said:

There was that Orange Chim a while ago, if I remember correctly it had a Supercharged Ford V8.

Compare sizes of the lumps and I'm sure if your pockets are deep enough and/or have the skills, then it can be done

Mustang engine from what I recall. Keane Bell I think. Search for it on YouTube.

Do you know which Mustang engine?

The old 4.6 SOHC is a bit of pig iron. You can often pick them up fairly cheap though for a new crate engine. But they are MASSIVE and heavy.

[Podie]

NickM450 said:

There was that Orange Chim a while ago, if I remember correctly it had a Supercharged Ford V8.

Yep, no update for a while.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=15&...


ETA - oooh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0g00Wx7mi8

[chris1972]

300bhp/ton said:

Do you know which Mustang engine?

The old 4.6 SOHC is a bit of pig iron. You can often pick them up fairly cheap though for a new crate engine. But they are MASSIVE and heavy.

Didn't look and old one. I think it was around 6.0 and supercharged. If I remember it turned out around 600+ bhp. Found the link here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0g00Wx7mi8

[GasMunkey]

300bhp/ton said:

Do you know which Mustang engine?

The old 4.6 SOHC is a bit of pig iron. You can often pick them up fairly cheap though for a new crate engine. But they are MASSIVE and heavy.

03/04 cobra lump

[300bhp/ton]

GasMunkey said:

03/04 cobra lump

Thanks. Still big and heavy but very capable if it's a genuine Terminator block. Very strong internals and loves boost.

[SILICONEKID343HP]

I want a LSA out the box !ready to fit ,lower comp and uprated cylinder block ..Its a baby LS9..Sportmotive are fitting one right now.

Its the one to have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9wRx1tqHic

Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Tuesday 25th June 12:17

[GasMunkey]

300bhp/ton said:

Thanks. Still big and heavy but very capable if it's a genuine Terminator block. Very strong internals and loves boost.

I think it's got a charged cooled KB on it

[chris1972]

SILICONEKID343HP said:

I want a LSA out the box !ready to fit ,lower comp and uprated cylinder block ..Its a baby LS9..Sportmotive are fitting one right now.

Its the one to have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9wRx1tqHic

Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Tuesday 25th June 12:17

That is very nice. I bet it isn't cheap though!

[SILICONEKID343HP]

chris1972 said:

That is very nice. I bet it isn't cheap though!

Put it next to the RV8 super carger kit at 5k ,your getting alot for your money .

Its all one unit ready to fit .

[s p a c e m a n]

Podie said:

ETA - oooh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0g00Wx7mi8

Youtube quote:

'The sun travels at around 486000mph and thats Orange! So Orange is definitely the fastest colour TVR there is ;-)'

[james280779]

300bhp/ton said:

Any reason you wouldn't want to go for an LSx? The Jag unit is nice and quite compact for a DOHC unit. But it's got to be a more costly and complex way of achieving slightly more weight and slightly less performance than an LSx would.

I guess the Chrysler Hemi engines could make a good swap, technically they are very capable, they are also compact and lightweight and proven to make good power. 5.7, 6.1 and 6.4 litre variants. Not sure there's much experience in the UK using these though.

I already have an LS in my SS, fancy something different. The RV8 is already a 4.7.

I am not worried so much about the power, My lotus is only 215bhp but I love driving that. I am more thinking about the usability and enjoyment factor. Also I have never had a supercharged car before so would be ticking one off the list.

[OleVix]

After cam, heads and flywheel is done I want to go turbo... effortless and nice power delivery... and rv8 sound

[james280779]

OleVix said:

After cam, heads and flywheel is done I want to go turbo... effortless and nice power delivery... and rv8 sound

I have had a couple of turbo's and used an Impreza for work (high speed persuit etc), really not a fan of turbo charged cars,

currently have 2 x V8's, A W8, a flat six and a 4 pot turbo

Edited by james280779 on Wednesday 26th June 06:18

[OleVix]

james280779 said:

I have had a couple of turbo's and used an Impreza for work (high speed persuit etc), really not a fan of turbo charged cars,

currently have 2 x V8's, A W8, a flat six and a 4 pot turbo

I believe there is a difference in how a 2 liter turbo and a 4 liter turbo, both with 300 horses, will deliver its power...