Sequential injection
Sequential injection
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Hoofa

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3,153 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Anyone done this ? Just converted mine and wondering about other people's experiences.

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Hoofa said:
Anyone done this ? Just converted mine and wondering about other people's experiences.
What does that mean ?

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Injectors operating when needed at point of combustion for individual cylinders, rather than batch firing in banks as the 14cux does.

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Why would each cylinder need different amounts of fuel ?

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Why would each cylinder need different amounts of fuel ?
Did I say that.,?confused

Pupp

12,972 posts

302 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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rigga said:
SILICONEKID343HP said:
Why would each cylinder need different amounts of fuel ?
Did I say that.,?confused
Very nearly; I can see where the plumber is coming from...
For once hehe

spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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you can have individual cylinder trimming though if needed, and if you have a rapidly accelerating engine, or a rapidly changing load you can have injectors in sequence supplying different fuelling as the conditions change quickly. It's not what the OP was getting at, but daz almost stubled across it accidently ..

v8 racing

2,064 posts

281 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Daz its more for fuel economy rather than power, you can cut the fuel to certain cylinders on cruise to give really good fuel economy, so at say 70 mph you can cut off 6 cylinders and run somewhere close to 50mpg

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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v8 racing said:
Daz its more for fuel economy rather than power, you can cut the fuel to certain cylinders on cruise to give really good fuel economy, so at say 70 mph you can cut off 6 cylinders and run somewhere close to 50mpg
Is that similar the Dodge Hemi which automatically runs on four cylinders on light load .

If Dave knew about this he would not of needed the LPG conversion ..

Does that mean a probe is needed from each exhaust port ..

I do stumble a lot in life laugh but get there in the end .

Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Wednesday 28th August 20:40

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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v8 racing said:
Daz its more for fuel economy rather than power, you can cut the fuel to certain cylinders on cruise to give really good fuel economy, so at say 70 mph you can cut off 6 cylinders and run somewhere close to 50mpg
Right up your street that then Daz .....get the mpg your constantly searching for...

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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rigga said:
Right up your street that then Daz .....get the mpg your constantly searching for...
I wonder if I could fit a lawn mower engine in the boot on to a belt drive for town driving .music

sheel

696 posts

253 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Thought that's what you had up front Daz !!nuts

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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AIUI, engines that shut off cylinders at light load don't just switch off the fuel.

If they did that, you wouldn't get as much of a benefit as you'd think, because the "dead" cylinders are still sucking in air and blowing it out again, which wastes energy.

What they do is have a clever system that keeps both valves permanently closed on the dead cylinders. So instead of drawing in air and pushing it back out, the pistons are constantly compressing the same charge of air. On each downward stroke, the compressed air helps to push the piston down, so a lot of the energy required to compress the air is recovered. It's not 100% efficient due to heat loss, but it's better than the alternative.

spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

211 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Yes whilst sequential would allow you to cut individual cylinders or more I'm not aware of any aftermarket ecu that we would use that would allow it, though some traction control systems do work like that. Running sequential does allow you to time the injection pulse on light loads so that you only inject when the inlet valve is open, so tidying up emissions and giving a slight benefit in economy, but most people agree it's mostly a waste of time unless you're chasing the last %

Pupp

12,972 posts

302 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Loving the irony of us discussing how to drop cylinders deliberately... lots of Tivs do it without trying! hehe

Sardonicus

19,454 posts

251 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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IMO full sequential is good for Low speed manners(good) Economy(RV8 really?) Emissions(so what) Honda amongst others have been using it since the early eighties and you can guess why wink sometimes with the Japanese its .... "because they can" or for Honda "what if" scratchchin

Chilliman

12,422 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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v8 racing said:
Daz its more for fuel economy rather than power, you can cut the fuel to certain cylinders on cruise to give really good fuel economy, so at say 70 mph you can cut off 6 cylinders and run somewhere close to 50mpg
Is this a 'switch on the dashboard' affair Rob? Like having two maps you can switch between?