Battery needed, info required.
Battery needed, info required.
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phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Ah well, just tried to start the 5.5 but the existing battery had little life although fully charged.

Not surprising as the car has been sat for a long while.

The battery is also the wrong one, much smaller then my 4.6 one.

Soooo, what am I looking for?

Is there a specific model? What amp/hour?

Is it a case of measuring the box and getting he best sized battery or it?

Russell Mc

573 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Range Rover classic injection I do believe 072 type.

PMA in Dorking done me a good deal on a battery the other day

Edited by Russell Mc on Monday 23 September 22:59

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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The original was an 072

The dimensions of the 1996 Chimaera battery box are:

Length: 280mm
Width: 190mm
Height: 230mm


My Odyssey PC1500 fits in the Chimaera battery box a treat, the dimensions of this battery are:

Length: 275.6 mm
Width: 171.7 mm
Height: 198.6 mm

Grunty too wink

Pulse Hot Cranking Amps: 1500 (For 5 seconds)
Cold Cranking Amps: 850
Hot Cranking Amps: 1250
Marine Cranking Amps: 1050


The dimensions for the 096 Varta Ultra (cheaper than my Odyssey but still very good quality) are:

Length: 278 mm
Width: 175 mm
Height: 190 mm


So the bottom line is lots of batteries fit, just keep an eye on the length as this is where things can get a bit tight.

TBH any 096 should fit (just), and would be a great option as typically it's a case of the bigger & heavier the better with lead acid batteries.

AGM technology is definitely the way forward if you can stretch to it, but anything that fits & has 500-600 cold cranking amps will do the job.

A BatteryBrain is also a brilliant addition to avoid the disappointment of a finding the car has a flat battery just when you want to use it.

Great car BTW Peter thumbup




phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Thanks guys, 'specially all that info Dave!

Plenty to keep me googling till the bewitching hour smile

Sardonicus

19,289 posts

242 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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phazed said:
Thanks guys, 'specially all that info Dave!

Plenty to keep me googling till the bewitching hour smile
Peter, give me a ring tomorrow you have a Euro Car Parts near you yes? scratchchin

phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Sardonicus said:
eter, give me a ring tomorrow you have a Euro Car Parts near you yes? scratchchin
Yah vole mine Kapitan. Speak tomorrow shout

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Here's a good option if you want a quality AGM battery at a good price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Size-096-Varta-Ultra-E39...

You can find a battery that'll do the job from £70, but for me this 096 Varta Ultra E39 at £110.00 delivered to your door represents great value for money.

The 20.4kg weight tells you a lot about the quality.

You pays your money & all that.


phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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20 KG.........blimey! I thought I had a fairly light car biggrin

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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1060kg, says a lot about the quality of a TVR laugh

over_the_hill

3,265 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
The original was an 072

The dimensions of the 1996 Chimaera battery box are:

Length: 280mm
Width: 190mm
Height: 230mm
I have a '98 model with an 072 battery.

I measured my box to be

Length: 270mm
Width: 180mm
Height: 225mm

phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Thanks for that.

I'll check later.

QBee

22,040 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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phazed said:
20 KG.........blimey! I thought I had a fairly light car biggrin
Never mind the weight, just think of the balance of the car.....with you in the driving seat, it will be so much better balanced with that lump of lead in the other side.
(Now guys, how can we get another 60kg of lead into that car so that us less well endowed mortals stand the faintest chance of staying with him on the track? whistle )

Peter, have you considered hitching 4 of those batteries together in parallel to boost your starting capabilities? There should be room in front of the passenger seat..... idea

Edited by QBee on Tuesday 24th September 11:26

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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over_the_hill said:
ChimpOnGas said:
The original was an 072

The dimensions of the 1996 Chimaera battery box are:

Length: 280mm
Width: 190mm
Height: 230mm
I have a '98 model with an 072 battery.

I measured my box to be

Length: 270mm
Width: 180mm
Height: 225mm
I'd be tempted just to ditch the battery box Peter.

Put some "D" ring bolts through the floor & strap it in.

Then it doesn't matter what size your box is.

Did I just say that? silly

over_the_hill

3,265 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
over_the_hill said:
ChimpOnGas said:
The original was an 072

The dimensions of the 1996 Chimaera battery box are:

Length: 280mm
Width: 190mm
Height: 230mm
I have a '98 model with an 072 battery.

I measured my box to be

Length: 270mm
Width: 180mm
Height: 225mm
I'd be tempted just to ditch the battery box Peter.

Put some "D" ring bolts through the floor & strap it in.

Then it doesn't matter what size your box is.

Did I just say that? silly
I would agree. As long as it the battery is securely fixed/bolted down does the box really serve any purpose other than the little flap of carpet that covers the terminals.

phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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If I was sensibe, I'd delay the starting proceedure and fit an icle one in the boot.

jamienshelly

1,826 posts

159 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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phazed said:
If I was sensibe, I'd delay the starting proceedure and fit an icle one in the boot.
Hi Peter, you could never be called "sensible"!. You have 2 heavily modified Chimaera's, you have spent a little while working on your new one and just when you are ready to start it, you think "I know i'll wait until I have put a tiny battery in the boot". Get it running, and then plan ahead with repositioning the battery and swapping over your stripe.
I hope it runs well, and it is everything that you wanted
If anybody needs some TVR luck, it's you
Good luck
Jamie smile

QBee

22,040 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Peter.....nick the green one's battery while you make your mind up and give it a whirl....you know you want to, and you love being head first, arse in the air, in the passenger footwell of a Chimaera

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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phazed said:
If I was sensibe, I'd delay the starting proceedure and fit an icle one in the boot.
Icle ones are for the Ghays, they may well crank the lump Ok when fully charged but it's the amp hours you lose out on.

In the world of lead acid berries, size (& weight) is everything, you cant beat the rules without changing the chemistry.

Not a problem if you've got you're icle one permanently on a trickle charger but I wouldn't want to leave the car for a long time without disconnecting or having it on a float charge.

However, I've been thinking about two Odyssey PC680 icle ones stacked scratchchin

If there's enough height to stack em, wired in parallel it'll still give 12v but double the amp hours.

A PC680 is only 79mm deep, so two staked will not only give you sufficient life & grunt, but will also release 3.5 inches of leg room for your passenger.

Job jobbed, & no need for super long battery cables as with a boot mounted battery.

Even better you could mount two parallel linked Odyssey PC680 behind the seats, one in the driver's side cubby hole & the other in the passenger cubby hole.

This would put the weight just forward of the rear axle line pretty much at the centre of gravity point, using two batteries one in each cubby hole evens up the weight distribution left & right too, so more or less perfect.

You get ll this plus a massive 7 inches of additional passenger leg room & plenty of amp hours too.

QBee

22,040 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
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This would put the weight just forward of the rear axle line pretty much at the centre of gravity point, using two batteries one in each cubby hole evens up the weight distribution left & right too, so more or less perfect.
All this careful balancing, what a shame there's an 80 kilo lump in the driver's seat, upsetting the balance......

Edited by QBee on Tuesday 24th September 13:45


Edited by QBee on Tuesday 24th September 13:45

phazed

Original Poster:

22,430 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Actually, I've just lost 5lbs!

I shall nick the 4.6 battery and that will give me a bit of thinking time.

I must say, all very good info to keep the grey, (not ghey) matter churning over!

I quite like the idea of a pair of Odyssey batteries behind the seats, hmm.