Fuel line replacement
Fuel line replacement
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mattgtd

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322 posts

167 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Read a few bits recently regarding split / leaking fuel lines and the potential fire risk.
I am thinking that this is one job that is probably best done as a piece of mind thing rather than waiting till it needs doing and may be too late!
Has anybody had this job completed at a garage? Just wondered what sort of labour would be charged to carry this out, I imagine the actual hoses themsoves are fairly cheap?

SILICONEKID346HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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You could start by replacing the front ones with these .

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/parts-and-p...


QBee

22,485 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I had mine changed by the garage - TVR expert, therefore knew how. Cannot remember how much, but was in the £30-50 range IIRC.

brett84

1,291 posts

183 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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bloody hell they are adding some TVR tax on those fuel lines - braided 8mm hose is normally about £10 a meter tops

Steve_D

13,802 posts

288 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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brett84 said:
bloody hell they are adding some TVR tax on those fuel lines - braided 8mm hose is normally about £10 a meter tops
It's not the material cost it's getting at the beggers down the back of the engine.

Steve

swallet

453 posts

173 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Probably took me two hours all told. That included taking the plenum off and putting it all back together. I'm only a keen amateur - I'm sure it could be done quicker.
It's not technically challenging but you have to be happy that there will be some fuel around.

QBee

22,485 posts

174 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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brett84 said:
bloody hell they are adding some TVR tax on those fuel lines - braided 8mm hose is normally about £10 a meter tops
Its the labour. Awkward job in difficult location, and resealing the plenum correctly to avoid air leaks, or your fuelling is all over the place.
You could leave it, but if your pipes are like mine you could end up with a fuel inferno just above your feet as the V Power squirts under pressure onto the exhaust manifold.yikes

Richard 858

1,882 posts

165 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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QBee said:
Its the labour. Awkward job in difficult location, and resealing the plenum correctly to avoid air leaks, or your fuelling is all over the place.
You could leave it, but if your pipes are like mine you could end up with a fuel inferno just above your feet as the V Power squirts under pressure onto the exhaust manifold.yikes
+1 Can't be left, too risky, at least check the existing lines, if you don't fancy taking plenum off to have a proper look invest in a telescopic inspection mirror or similar. All IMHO of course !

Aussie John

1,021 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Noticed your old lines were R6, I am fairly sure you need R9 to cope with the ethanol now in most fuel. [ The petrol companies don't have to tell you if they use 5% or less in their mix.]

QBee

22,485 posts

174 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Aussie John said:
Noticed your old lines were R6, I am fairly sure you need R9 to cope with the ethanol now in most fuel. [ The petrol companies don't have to tell you if they use 5% or less in their mix.]
I will have a look tomorrow and see what type he used to replace them. Those pipes were on the car when i bought it from a dealer. TVR guy I went to (not the same place) nearly had a coronary when i showed him. They had just passed an MOT too......

brett84

1,291 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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QBee said:
Its the labour. Awkward job in difficult location, and resealing the plenum correctly to avoid air leaks, or your fuelling is all over the place.
You could leave it, but if your pipes are like mine you could end up with a fuel inferno just above your feet as the V Power squirts under pressure onto the exhaust manifold.yikes
I mean the link that Daz posted.
I know how much of a pain in the arse it is, i'm currently replacing all mine, it's a nightmare

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

274 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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brett84 said:
I know how much of a pain in the arse it is, i'm currently replacing all mine, it's a nightmare
You have taken the plenum and throttle linkage off haven't you?

brett84

1,291 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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yeah, still can't get down to the hard lines.
Thinking about trimming the copper lines back to where i can get to them underneath and running longer braided lines up the bulkhead

Sardonicus

19,450 posts

251 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I bet you have that convoluted hose running from left to right under the bulk head scratchchin it just makes things a little trickier you should not need to cut anything with the plenum removed its just fiddly that's all wink make sure you use proper fuel clips not Jubilee style like TVR fitted, hope these links help at least you will know what your looking for Brett, however you will struggle to get these brands in the UK to this spec so try Car Builder Solutions and companies like kit car builders must have a huge demand for this stuff http://ww2.gates.com/europe/brochure.cfm?brochure=... and http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDetail.aspx?id=1...frown



Edited by Sardonicus on Tuesday 8th April 10:45

Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

209 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Sardonicus said:
make sure you use proper fuel clips not Jubilee style like TVR fitted frown
Is this ok?


Sardonicus

19,450 posts

251 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Alexdaredevils said:
Is this ok?

You tit Alex rolleyes just how much range do you think your new mini fuel tank will give you now ? you will be lucky to get off the drive hehe you can only run fuel tanks that size with LPG rofl

QBee

22,485 posts

174 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Sardonicus said:
Alexdaredevils said:
Is this ok?

You tit Alex rolleyes just how much range do you think your new mini fuel tank will give you now ? you will be lucky to get off the drive hehe you can only run fuel tanks that size with LPG rofl
There's something similar to that at the back of my boiler.....did you have Daz as technical consultant on the Alex Formula 1 Fuel Economy Project? hehe
I trust you got a grant from Brussels to cover the cost, or does it not run on the kind of gas produced by brussels?

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Alexdaredevils said:
Is this ok?

Only 1 bosch 044 pah! whistle


brett84

1,291 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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yeah i've got the proper clips, braided lines for the engine bay (just because i like the look).
I ran full aeroquip lines on my last MK1 Escort build but couldn't be bothered with the expense for this one.
The lines were replaced 8 years ago according to the receipts and they are all perished already, this bloody car is turning into a full nut/bolt restoration.

I do have that crap heater pipe across the bulk head making it harder to access and the engine seems to sit further back than others i've seen, it's a 4.6 instead of the original 4.0 so don't know if they are a slightly different shape?
Plenum removed, still cannot find any way to reach down to the lines on the bulk head. Do you have to access from underneath?

snorky

2,322 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Replaced mine when I backed out the garage and fuel was pissing out from under the car - worrying moment.
it was only a tiny pinhole leak - hardly noticable even when I knew where it was - but tons of fuel came out when the pump was on....

hoses were 15 years old at that point (ironically they were all held on with jubilee clips and had been ok all those 15 years)
used JonnyZ's kit and it was a bit of a pain to do (especially behind the plenum - which you can do without removing it but you have to commit by cutting the hose and then destroying the clips with some snipe-nosed pliers to get the ends off.
As other have said there will be a bit of petrol about so be careful...
you CAN get to the 2 engine bay pipes but you need small hands and be able to kind of see the pipe in your mind when you do it...
I wanted to do it myself as I didn't want to find the garage hadn't done it right by the car catching on fire whilst I was driving it.