Problems Persist
Problems Persist
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Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I have now changed plugs, leads, dizzie cap, rotor arm, 100 amp fuse, AFM and lambda sensors, the problem of over fuelling still persists. In discussion with the excellent people at Elmwood yesterday, they feel it could be a worn camshaft but this can't be checked until after Classic Le Mans. Another option is the ECU!

The heads were taken off a couple of weeks ago and I was told that the bores etc., looked pretty good, but nothing about the cams! Engine has done 64,000 miles.

Any ideas?

Does anyone in Surrey have a spare ECU that I could try? Tall order I know but if you don't ask...

Many thanks

jr6yam

1,363 posts

213 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Faulty ECU Temp sensor?

Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I've changed the coolant temp sensor, the ECU one., forgot to include in the ever increasing list of parts replaced!!

phazed

22,491 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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You can use a standard rangie one just to test, I did when I had a problem some years ago.

It'll run perfectly well but probably not deliver full power flat out, (slightly underfueling I guess).

I have a 4.0 V8 Disco you can try the ECU from.

jamienshelly

1,826 posts

168 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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have you had the car on Rovergauge or Ecumate, as this will show what the ECU is doing, it will also highlight how hard it is having to compensate for a lean/Rich engine with the lambda trim on both short and long term trim. There are many reasons for it over fuelling, mine was faulty wiring on the Lambda heater circuit.

Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Thanks for all of this, very useful.

On talking to a friend of mine he said that he had the exact same problem and it turned out to be the fuel-pickup filter in the tank becoming blocked with rubbish in the tank. By stopping the car for a while this allowed the sediment to settle and then would be ok for a short period until it blocked again causing fuelling issues.

Thoughts?

phazed

22,491 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Highly unlikely.

I've had my tank out of my 95 car and it was spotless.

Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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When i first picked the car up i did run out of fuel!! Gauge was still showing some in her!!


phazed

22,491 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Webby66 said:
When i first picked the car up i did run out of fuel!! Gauge was still showing some in her!!
ditto with my 5.5, runs out just after one quarter full.

l6rth

452 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Is the car de catted? If it is has the resistor been swapped?

Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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l6rth said:
Is the car de catted? If it is has the resistor been swapped?
No she hasn't been de-catted.

QBee

22,483 posts

174 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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phazed said:
Webby66 said:
When i first picked the car up i did run out of fuel!! Gauge was still showing some in her!!
ditto with my 5.5, runs out just after one quarter full.
Me too......we should have some appropriate T shirts printed.....

jamienshelly

1,826 posts

168 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Are you just guessing as to what the fault could be or are you changing these parts as a result of diagnosis. this could be very expensive if its just a case of a poor connection at the Lambdas or the AFM, or even the fuel pressure regulator pipe fallen off!.

Webby66

Original Poster:

68 posts

177 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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jamienshelly said:
Are you just guessing as to what the fault could be or are you changing these parts as a result of diagnosis. this could be very expensive if its just a case of a poor connection at the Lambdas or the AFM, or even the fuel pressure regulator pipe fallen off!.
It was a process of elimination really and as I intend to keep her long-term, then replacing the parts would have been part of the strategy anyway! Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

As an experiment, after a discussion with one of my clients, I put the original coil back on and must admit the tickover is now much smoother smile let her warm up until the fans kicked in and no problems smile now need to road test but a bit wet at the moment frown Fingers crossed (:-)

QBee

22,483 posts

174 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Webby66 said:
need to road test but a bit wet at the moment frown Fingers crossed (:-)
You were right not to road test early this morning. I came down the A1 at about 6 am and the amount of water standing or running on the road was actually quite alarming even in a 4-wheel drive Audi saloon eek

dibblecorse

7,611 posts

222 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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And she ran ...

I was lucky enough to passenger in Webbys Chim (Stella) to the Le Mans Classic last weekend and she bahaved impeccably, and was a hoot to drive, she even lapped up the 2 parade laps which were very wet and survived a mostly monsoon ridden drive home smile

I now want one .....

ukdj

1,004 posts

214 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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QBee said:
phazed said:
Webby66 said:
When i first picked the car up i did run out of fuel!! Gauge was still showing some in her!!
ditto with my 5.5, runs out just after one quarter full.
Me too......we should have some appropriate T shirts printed.....
Me too, but have now fixed this issue - undo the 5 or 6 screws to take the sender out of tank, flip float around 180° so it doesn't get stuck on the back of the tank as it gets to around ¼ full. Then move sender through full range and check gauge reading, adjust the stoppers on the sender mechanism as neccessary so the gauge reading tallies with sender movement - voila accurate fuel gauge!

phazed

22,491 posts

234 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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ukdj said:
Me too, but have now fixed this issue - undo the 5 or 6 screws to take the sender out of tank, flip float around 180° so it doesn't get stuck on the back of the tank as it gets to around ¼ full. Then move sender through full range and check gauge reading, adjust the stoppers on the sender mechanism as neccessary so the gauge reading tallies with sender movement - voila accurate fuel gauge!
That will be on the "to do" list wink

ukdj

1,004 posts

214 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Should of said check which way round your float is - i.e. like an iceberg where is the "body" of the float - on mine it was facing the rear of the tank and subsequently fouling the tank wall at a certain point when getting low, and therefore giving a false reading yours may not and therefore not require flipping the float but worth checking nonetheless! You can still calibrate the gauge/sender by adjusting the stoppers as neccessary anyway.

Regards

UKDJ

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

159 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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QBee said:
phazed said:
Webby66 said:
When i first picked the car up i did run out of fuel!! Gauge was still showing some in her!!
ditto with my 5.5, runs out just after one quarter full.
Me too......we should have some appropriate T shirts printed.....
Can I order a T shirt then please.. Also ran out showing just slightly under the 1st mark,although it's been lower than this mark previously.
After putting about 3 lts in from a can it fired up and drove me to the nearest garage without a single judder or hiccup.
It drove perfect from being completely empty