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WokingWedger

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1,030 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Advise please.

For a while I have sometimes only recd a click when turning the ignition key.

It gradually got more frequent and now it only goes click from the starter solenoid. No starter turning over, just a loud healthy click from the solenoid.

As the solenoid is operating (and the fuel pump) can I discount the imobiliser as being the fault ?



zed4

7,248 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Yes, might be a few things. For me, replacing the starter motor cured it. It would only occur to me when it had been raining. Once it started it would start up fine each and every time.

scruggs

419 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Yep we have the same issue on a 1999 Chim 500. The starter was replaced with a new one a couple of years ago so it shouldn't be that. I am thinking it may be a corroded wire connection.

WokingWedger

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234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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My engine and gear box have just been out and rebuilt and all put back by a reliable TVR specialist so, I will be disappointed if its a poor connection to the starter, or engine earth etc.

My starter is about 5 years old (a guess with out digging all the receipts out), so could be the starter.

Trying to start it with headlights on (still only getting the click), they don't seem to dim at all. Does this tell me anything(like the battery is good.

I cant get to the battery at the moment (in garage and door wont open far enough), but measuring at the Anderson connector it reads 12.63V

I know I need to get under and check everything and maybe measure the voltage at the starter terminals, but I don't have time until the weekend. I want to prepare so that I can fix it at the weekend, not just diagnose.

Any further thoughts anybody

plangston

112 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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My one does the same, I turn the key and nothing, so I've got a piece of copper pipe and a hammer, I put the copper pipe on the starter motor and then hit the copper pipe with the hammer, turn the key and away it goes. I'm guessing that I just need to remove the starter motor and clean it.

WokingWedger

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1,030 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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plangston said:
My one does the same, I turn the key and nothing, so I've got a piece of copper pipe and a hammer, I put the copper pipe on the starter motor and then hit the copper pipe with the hammer, turn the key and away it goes. I'm guessing that I just need to remove the starter motor and clean it.
I have tried tapping the starter motor with a hydraulic jack handle, vertical tap from above. Is this what you do ?

How much of a clout do you give it ?

plangston

112 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I will take a picture tonight to show you, I hit it hardish but it is only a piece of 15mm copper water pipe.

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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There may be one of two issues; the solenoid is moving and throws the pinion onto the starter ring, but it does not close the circuit to the starter motor brushes. Or, all of the foregoing but the solenoid is making the circuit to the brushes on the starter, but they are not making contact with the commutator or they are both dirty?

In both instances a blow with a hammer "usually" makes the circuit and it starts.

In both instances they either need cleaning or replacing the complete starter/solenoid complete?

plangston

112 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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copper 15mm pipe just give it a whack

WokingWedger

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1,030 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Thanks all.

I shall give it a whack.

WokingWedger

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Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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plangston said:


copper 15mm pipe just give it a whack
I had tried whacking it, but not with the method you described.

Yep that worked thanks.

Turned over (didn't actually start the engine because the garage doors were shut), then refused again on the second attempt.

New starter ordered !

Thanks Peter

WokingWedger

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234 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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New starter fitted and all's well !