Waxoyl - How long does it last
Waxoyl - How long does it last
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PorscheFreak

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121 posts

208 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Hope everyone is well.

I had the Chimaera up on some ramps the other day in order to asses the waxoyl scenario. It's clear that the outriggers have been replaced previously, but I'm new to all this waxoyl malarky, and I'm not sure what I need to do with regards to the upkeep.

As some of you may know, I bought the car unseen, and with very little paperwork, so can't vouch for when the outriggers were changed, or when the car was waxoyled.

The guy that owned ramp hire place popped his head under for a nose, and claimed that the waxoyl would outlive the car.

Not that I don't trust him, but thought I'd better check with those that probably would know.

Is it something that needs removing and redoing regularly?

Oh and for what it's worth, and I don't care if I jinx myself, but what an amazing car, 100% perfect and faultless, I thought I had a problem with a fan noise from behind the dash for a while, turns out it's the second fan switch under the steering wheel! I thought it was an interval switch for the windscreen wipers! TVR = CRAZY

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Depends a lot on how much you use the car and in what conditions, a bit of wet weather driving will eventually take its toll on it I'd have thought.
Probably worth checking and "topping up" in vulnerable places annually scratchchin



PS was he being a little sarcastic when he said "it will out last the car" smile

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Alot of these cars have large amounts of waxoil on them to hide whats underneath. Clean it off will a rag soaked in a oil cleaning agent petrol is very good, and see what's under the layer of waxoil. Then get back to us.;)

DamianS3

1,805 posts

211 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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portzi said:
Alot of these cars have large amounts of waxoil on them to hide whats underneath. Clean it off will a rag soaked in a oil cleaning agent petrol is very good, and see what's under the layer of waxoil. Then get back to us.;)
Had mine done with that clear wax oil so I can keep an eye on it smile

Damian S3

blitzracing

6,422 posts

249 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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It gets washed of when exposed to road spray, and it also dries out and leaves a nasty white residue thats a pain to clean off. It needs reapplying on high wear areas once a year, and the rest can be revitalised by spraying on a thinned down solution with white spirit every 2- 3 years. You dont want to build up a thick layer, as already stated, it hides a multitude of sins.

PorscheFreak

Original Poster:

121 posts

208 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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In all fairness to the car, I was advised that the outriggers had been replaced, and it's not like the waxoyl had been slopped on.

The car has previously been looked at by a TVR expert who had agreed everything was perfect, but I just wanted to have a nose for the sake of it. I recently found a place near me that rents out either 2 or 4 post lifts, including toold and airlines etc for £10 an hour.

Bored last weekend I thought I'd have a look, see what it was all about under there.

So glad I did too, for £10 you can't really argue.

alex_gray255

6,344 posts

234 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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I would get it redone once every 2-4 years depending on how often you use the car
and in which condition.

I usually have it stripped off, the chassis inspected and then put back on.

Costs a bit, but at least it is done properly.

Or just bit the bullet and repair then zinc coat or similar the chassis to take
care of the issue.

gmw9666

2,739 posts

229 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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this lot have centers across the UK, clean, jet wash, remove loose material, prep and wax etc for £380 = http://www.waxoyltreatment.co.uk/how-we-work/


Sardonicus

19,442 posts

250 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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blitzracing said:
It gets washed of when exposed to road spray, and it also dries out and leaves a nasty white residue thats a pain to clean off. It needs reapplying on high wear areas once a year, and the rest can be revitalised by spraying on a thinned down solution with white spirit every 2- 3 years. You dont want to build up a thick layer, as already stated, it hides a multitude of sins.
This ^ I don't rate the product quite frankly its like a cheap DIY version of the real deal Dinitrol ML 3125 this also needs 12 monthly touch ups like Blitz says yes

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

166 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Awful stuff IMO. Clean it off, paint and use Dinitrol, which is clear. Waxoil stays on your driveway and clothing longer than it stays on the car. Unless it is applied to a perfectly clean surface, it will trap dirt and moisture, which seems to increase the decay process, whilst masking the problem nicely.

Mistral engine degreaser used neat will take it off, without the danger of using petrol. Apply with a brush, leave for ten minutes and then get plenty of rags. I spent a couple of weeks last year getting rid of the Waxoil. Scrapped everything back, two undercoats, two top coats and then clear Dinitrol.


portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Chuffmeister said:
Awful stuff IMO. Clean it off, paint and use Dinitrol, which is clear. Waxoil stays on your driveway and clothing longer than it stays on the car. Unless it is applied to a perfectly clean surface, it will trap dirt and moisture, which seems to increase the decay process, whilst masking the problem nicely.

Mistral engine degreaser used neat will take it off, without the danger of using petrol. Apply with a brush, leave for ten minutes and then get plenty of rags. I spent a couple of weeks last year getting rid of the Waxoil. Scrapped everything back, two undercoats, two top coats and then clear Dinitrol.

The only way to keep your chassis spotless. Use waxoil sparingly and as others have said thinned down with w spirits

ch427

11,877 posts

262 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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I read so many bad reports on waxoyl I decided to look for something else, i ended up going for this but have not tried it yet.
http://www.rust.co.uk/0001-mil-spec-transparent-ru...


blitzracing

6,422 posts

249 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Dont be too harsh on the stuff if its applied properly- these photos show 2 Ginetta chassis, both about the same age. The coated one was done from new, so it did not cover up any previous rust or loose paint (most of it was wiped of before the photo).





Wacky Racer

41,317 posts

276 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Well I've got a 5 Gallon drum of unopened Waxoyl I bought in 1970, so I hope it has a decent shelf life.....biggrin

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Wacky Racer said:
I hope it has a decent shelf life.....biggrin
Has the drum gone rusty? wink

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

260 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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I would leave it to rot and have a body off when it needs it .laugh

Skyedriver

23,397 posts

311 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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phillpot said:
Has the drum gone rusty? wink
Years ago I had a gallon can of the stuff, it rusted through from the inside and leaked.

Have a look at the Bilt Hambro stuff, theres a guy there had a Carbera so knows the situation.

portzi

2,336 posts

204 months

Monday 19th January 2015
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Skyedriver said:
phillpot said:
Has the drum gone rusty? wink
Years ago I had a gallon can of the stuff, it rusted through from the inside and leaked.

Have a look at the Bilt Hambro stuff, theres a guy there had a Carbera so knows the situation.
Condensation in the can !!!!!!