Idle help please
Idle help please
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sapper

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1,134 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Help folks. Idle is mad.
Ive done some work over the last few months and ballsed something up.
Rockers, Plenum, coolant tanks etc have been off for powder coating. Also changed all coolant hoses and power steering pipes. Changed the ignition leads as well.
So I've disturbed quite a bit.
Finally got it back together today and started it up, and Shat myself.

Idle is at 3000RPM and slowly climbing as it gets warmer. And every now and then a nice loud backfire.
Ive checked the butterfly closes, cleaned the stepper and still no change.

What have I done

PH430

147 posts

157 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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I think you have an air leak

Pupp

12,948 posts

301 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Vac hose between fuel pressure regulator and stepper housing off? Another port into plenum open - the one usually teed into the breather circuit perhaps (on the nearside of the trumpet base), often used to take a line to the dump valve or to a MAP sensor on FI cars

blitzracing

6,422 posts

249 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Do you have the preheat plate fitted under the plenum with all its screws?

wuckfitracing

991 posts

172 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Agree sucking air in somewhere

QBee

22,469 posts

173 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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I thought you had Megasquits (hence stting yourself I suppose) . Please add to my meagre knowledge - why do you have a stepper?

jojackson4

3,049 posts

166 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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You haven't pulled the heater plate of the plenom have you?

There's 2 bolts that brake into the chamber and cause an air leek
Don't ask how I know whistle

sapper

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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QBee said:
I thought you had Megasquits (hence stting yourself I suppose) . Please add to my meagre knowledge - why do you have a stepper?
It was never removed


Edited by sapper on Monday 6th April 20:23

sapper

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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blitzracing said:
Do you have the preheat plate fitted under the plenum with all its screws?
Ahhhhh,
I didn't have.
I'd took it off when I sent it for powder coating. Before your reply Id put it back on but I have a screw missing.

sapper

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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jojackson4 said:
You haven't pulled the heater plate of the plenom have you?

There's 2 bolts that brake into the chamber and cause an air leek
Don't ask how I know whistle
Yes I had the heater plane off. Its back on, with 3 screws, and I'm down to 2000RPM so it seems to be the cause.
Called it a day. tomorrow evening ill find the missing screw (in my toolbox, I hope.

jojackson4

3,049 posts

166 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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You only nead 2

sapper

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1,134 posts

234 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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jojackson4 said:
You only nead 2
Which 2 Peter, I have the longer one and 2 short ones.

jojackson4

3,049 posts

166 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Easy way
Pull the elbow off and shine a torch under the plate open the butterfly and the light will show
You the way

sapper

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Fitted the missing screw but still idle is at 1500RPM. I cant find any air leaks so scratching my head again. Everything is too hot to work on now so going I'm for a brew and looking for a wall to bang head against.banghead
Any suggestions received with thanks.

jojackson4

3,049 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Have you got any easy Start that will tell you if its a an air leek but make sure your Ht leads
Are not ark Ing

sapper

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1,134 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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jojackson4 said:
Have you got any easy Start that will tell you if its a an air leek but make sure your Ht leads
Are not ark Ing
Ive got easy start, how would I use it to look for an air leak. Is this a trick of the trade?

jojackson4

3,049 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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MAKE sure you do not have Sparks /arking from your ht leads
Run it in the dark to check
2 start the car and lightly spray where they maybe an air leak then whate and see if the reves go up if it dose
That's where the air is getting in
Repeat around where you have had it in bits
Not my trick but what has been written on here I read too much






sapper

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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jojackson4 said:
1
MAKE sure you do not have Sparks /arking from your ht leads
Run it in the dark to check
2 start the car and lightly spray where they maybe an air leak then whate and see if the reves go up if it dose
That's where the air is getting in
Repeat around where you have had it in bits
Not my trick but what has been written on here I read too much



Part 1 complete, no arcs.
Part 2 tomorrow. I want to do it now but neighbours have kids and its a school night. Hope I can find a cure before the weekend.

wuckfitracing

991 posts

172 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Hi Mick what did you use to seal the plenum back on.

sapper

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1,134 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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wuckfitracing said:
Hi Mick what did you use to seal the plenum back on.
Nothing at the minute as ive had it on and off so many times.
Ill seal it tomorrow with hylomar blue before I start looking for leaks with the easy start