Think it's time to change the plugs,
Think it's time to change the plugs,
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Seandenyer

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320 posts

143 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Doing my own 12000 mile service as I think £550 is a little to much just to change oil, plugs, filter etc so doing a proper job of changing everything , oils etc and not just checking them and topping up. Just done plugs and the old ones look like this.

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

182 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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NGK 7' ?

Seandenyer

Original Poster:

320 posts

143 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Yes, seems to run a little smoother, just with the plugs changed

N7GTX

8,260 posts

166 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Mine is on NGK B7ECS and runs very well.

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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My car is on NGK 6s. It is 12 months and 4500 miles since the last service and it is going in on Monday for its service.

I will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.

Back soon with a photo.

CHIMV8

2,782 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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QBee said:
My car is on NGK 6s. It is 12 months and 4500 miles since the last service and it is going in on Monday for its service.

I will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.

Back soon with a photo.
Is there a stamp mark on the plug to determine what number

Seandenyer

Original Poster:

320 posts

143 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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N7GTX said:
Mine is on NGK B7ECS and runs very well.
NGK B7ECS for me to, seems to run a lot smoother now changed

Seandenyer

Original Poster:

320 posts

143 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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N7GTX said:
Mine is on NGK B7ECS and runs very well.
NGK B7ECS for me to, seems to run a lot smoother now changed

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.



This one is straight out of my engine and I can confirm after many thousands of miles these plugs work brilliantly... even though some people told me the tips would fall off and destroy my engine hehe

Iridium plugs are more expensive to buy than NGK BPR6ES in the first place, but the extended service life is such they actually work out cheaper in the long run. Iridium plugs are used by all high end and performance car makers so are not a gimmick, NGK are the best spark plug manufacturer bar none and do not sell snake oil products using false claims of performance or economy gains.

My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design (ES).

At the very least fit NGK BPR6ES which will be a big improvement for the same money as the B7ECS, and better still choose the longer lived NGK BPR6EIX iridium.

Hope this helps?

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Yes, they are NGK BPR6EIX
The "R" means they are resistive.
The "I" means they are iridium, so more expensive but supposedly last several times. When I had a Lexus, the service interval for the iridium plugs was 60,000 miles
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Pulled out the number 2 plug and here it is.



I have to be fair and say that the car has just come off a track day, but the last thing it did was idle for a bit while I was loading it back onto my trailer for the journey home.

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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I also have to say that it was Chimpongas who put me onto trying them in the first place - and there will be strict instructions NOT to change them at the service

CHIMV8

2,782 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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What sort of price should I be paying, and have you bought onine (Theres a set of flea bay for £54 with free delivery) or at a motor factor

I'm just going to replace mine to NGK BPR6EIX just for the sake of it

Edited by CHIMV8 on Saturday 12th March 10:23


Edited by CHIMV8 on Saturday 12th March 10:24

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".

CHIMV8

2,782 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound right

NGK BPR6EIX
6637

14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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CHIMV8 said:
QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound right

NGK BPR6EIX
6637

14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP
6637 is the correct number, so I guess the rest follows. Certainly was my 14mm plug spanner this morning, and I assume the gap is correct.

CHIMV8

2,782 posts

244 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound right

NGK BPR6EIX
6637

14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP
6637 is the correct number, so I guess the rest follows. Certainly was my 14mm plug spanner this morning, and I assume the gap is correct.
Cheers Anthony..... ordered....

N7GTX

8,260 posts

166 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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ChimpOnGas said:
I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.

My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design
My engine is under warranty and performs really well on the B7ECS plugs. While the iridium plugs would probably last forever, if something went wrong then the following words might come into play - warranty/Powers/wrong spec plugs/invalidated/mahooosive repair bill/bank account zero/divorce. argue

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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N7GTX said:
ChimpOnGas said:
I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.

My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design
My engine is under warranty and performs really well on the B7ECS plugs. While the iridium plugs would probably last forever, if something went wrong then the following words might come into play - warranty/Powers/wrong spec plugs/invalidated/mahooosive repair bill/bank account zero/divorce. argue
Ask Powers.....
Dom is often on PH and might even read this

Pupp

12,856 posts

295 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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The ECS plug has a more robust design and especially a stronger ground electrode so is more resistant to damage from detonation etc; that is a fact and likely the reason TVR specced it given the propensity for RV8s to ping when lent on.

If you're cold fouling 7s then you need to push the throttle pedal harder hehe

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

254 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Ive not used those over priced race plugs for years ,they foul up quickly.Iuse what v8 Developments recommend

NGK BPR6 or 7 ES.Used on most RV8's

£15 for 8

Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Saturday 12th March 17:08