Discussion
So earlier this year the perennial summer holiday transport question comes up with my other half, I'm all for taking the TVR but she says flying down then hiring a car will work out cheaper.
She says drive to Luton airport and pay for 2 weeks cheap parking, buy a return EasyJet flight to Bordeaux, hire a small gutless car for the two weeks and stick some petrol in it.
I say buy a return ferry ticket, pay the tolls, fill 'Ol Gasbag' with cheap LPG and have another glorious TVR road trip adventure stopping in lovely villages along the way going just where we want to when it suits us in unbeatable style
Fortunately I won that argument but now we're back I thought I better add it all up and compare my TVR option with my wife's fly/drive idea to see how much more it actually cost us to drive a 4.0 litre V8 TVR 1,800 miles around France & home again.
And the answer is.... with absolutely everything taken into account... taking the TVR was actually £200 cheaper than the fly/drive option
Granted, this was an 1,800 mile adventure to the west coast of France about two thirds down, if we'd done our usual 2,500 mile trip to the Cote d'Azur and back the flights to Nice would have actually been the same price as flying to Bordeaux but the additional 700 miles of LPG would have only cost us another £100.
So it's still cheaper to take the TVR
Thems the facts folks
She says drive to Luton airport and pay for 2 weeks cheap parking, buy a return EasyJet flight to Bordeaux, hire a small gutless car for the two weeks and stick some petrol in it.
I say buy a return ferry ticket, pay the tolls, fill 'Ol Gasbag' with cheap LPG and have another glorious TVR road trip adventure stopping in lovely villages along the way going just where we want to when it suits us in unbeatable style
Fortunately I won that argument but now we're back I thought I better add it all up and compare my TVR option with my wife's fly/drive idea to see how much more it actually cost us to drive a 4.0 litre V8 TVR 1,800 miles around France & home again.
And the answer is.... with absolutely everything taken into account... taking the TVR was actually £200 cheaper than the fly/drive option
Granted, this was an 1,800 mile adventure to the west coast of France about two thirds down, if we'd done our usual 2,500 mile trip to the Cote d'Azur and back the flights to Nice would have actually been the same price as flying to Bordeaux but the additional 700 miles of LPG would have only cost us another £100.
So it's still cheaper to take the TVR
Thems the facts folks
...
...
Bin attempting this argument for the last umpteen yrs. Even though the maths make sense, travelling in the TVR is her worst nightmare. So no matter what the maths say I will always get ear ache as an excuse for not going in Trev.
This is why I've gone & bought a less reliable but faster & more "comfortable" vehicle.....
P.S. genuinely amazed it's faster. But it will actually 'walk away' from any of my TVR's as it has 406hp!!
Genuinely sorry, regretfull & gutted. Tra boyos. Loved the journey
Wyn
This is why I've gone & bought a less reliable but faster & more "comfortable" vehicle.....
P.S. genuinely amazed it's faster. But it will actually 'walk away' from any of my TVR's as it has 406hp!!
Genuinely sorry, regretfull & gutted. Tra boyos. Loved the journey
Wyn
ChimpOnGas said:
The point is my TVR is not the only the more stylish and flexible way to go on holiday, thanks to the LPG conversion it's actually now the cheaper option too.
Genius
Your chim has an lpg conversion? Gosh you kept that quiet. I wish you'd have repeatedly told us accompanied by relative fuel costs and savings achieved because that would be unmissable reading. Genius
ClassiChimi said:
I remember talking to my then girlfriend in France about the very same thing, I justified using the car by doing similar calculations, we really are a bore Dave 
The conversation goes like this ... "I'm driving, you can fly if you want but you take all your own sh!t with you so I can get beer in the boot on the way back..."
Sorted.
Phil
Bassfiendnoideawhathp said:
ClassiChimi said:
I remember talking to my then girlfriend in France about the very same thing, I justified using the car by doing similar calculations, we really are a bore Dave
The conversation goes like this ... "I'm driving, you can fly if you want but you take all your own sh!t with you so I can get beer in the boot on the way back..."
Sorted.
Phil
unless she's got big t.t. Single are you mate, thought so, me too
I too get fed up with Daves repeated ramming his facts down our throats,,,, but
joking buddy Have you seen, heard his car on LPG, insane, it's quiet and smooth as a Roller, better probably,
Way ahead of anything I've ever seen, he should stop trying to convince us and get his car into a national car magazine and let them tell us of its sophistication charm and down right brilliance. It's only really since meeting him that I do understand why he's so committed to this project, it's simply the smoothest Tvr engine I've ever heard, and my buggers smooth as silk!
Not all of us are loaded with pennies, I might not concern myself with my fuel bill but sometimes I'm aware of the disproportionate cost of petrol and an average of 20 mpg around town,,, if your lucky is not cheap,
Daves car is the opposite to that in cost terms but no less fun to drive I'm sure of that, the gas tanks are far stronger than petrol tanks so that's ok too, it's his choice and I think it's funkie and mad and exciting and very very stupid but it works better than almost all Tvr's I've seen, you can not argue with facts. It's the running of the engine,, it's mad how smooth and perfect the firing strokes are.
But your worse than me for promoting the things your passionate about Dave,,
ClassiChimi said:
Bassfiendnoideawhathp said:
ClassiChimi said:
I remember talking to my then girlfriend in France about the very same thing, I justified using the car by doing similar calculations, we really are a bore Dave
The conversation goes like this ... "I'm driving, you can fly if you want but you take all your own sh!t with you so I can get beer in the boot on the way back..."
Sorted.
Phil
unless she's got big t.t. ClassiChimi said:
Single are you mate, thought so, me too
Not at all ... been married for seventeen years and the last ten (starting on the 6th of October) have been the happiest you can imagine......of course the Mrs. and I have been separated for the last ten years and haven't seen or spoken to each other in that time so that helps ... plus there's been the seemingly endless string of girlfriends since (the odd one or two of them young enough to make my eyes water) ... and the fact that the ex-wife did say "You're never having a TVR while I have anything to say about it" (yes, the old guard here will remember the "Sperm for toys" program that the ex-wife had me on - well she withdrew the deal
) but hey - I've now had the TVR for seven years ... and then there's the HiFi ... oh boy ... you've never played with HiFi til you've worked for a HiFi manufacturer ... and the current future-ex-Mrs.Bassfiend-to-be seems lovely too (in fact for the first time in a veeeeerrrry long time I'm actually being good and being a one woman guy) so yes, blissfully happily married as I just haven't got round to actually getting a divorce. ClassiChimi said:
I too get fed up with Daves repeated ramming his facts down our throats,,,, but joking buddy
Now hooooold on there bald eagle! Didn't say that ... didn't say that at all ... Dave's got a very nicely running and nicely sorted motor and is justifiably proud of what he's got out of his Blackpool Bucket, he's a very intelligent bloke and gives out a lot of really bloody useful info so bend over and drop 'em so I can give you a slightly weirdly loving slap on the tush there. I don't want Dave thinking that I'm taking a pop at him when I'm not... joking buddy ClassiChimi said:
Have you seen, heard his car on LPG, insane, it's quiet and smooth as a Roller, better probably,
Yup - bloody great bit of work ...ClassiChimi said:
Way ahead of anything I've ever seen, he should stop trying to convince us and get his car into a national car magazine and let them tell us of its sophistication charm and down right brilliance. It's only really since meeting him that I do understand why he's so committed to this project, it's simply the smoothest Tvr engine I've ever heard, and my buggers smooth as silk!
Have to say that I had wondered if - maybe - Sprint might get round to doing a writeup on it but it would appear not...ClassiChimi said:
Not all of us are loaded with pennies, I might not concern myself with my fuel bill but sometimes I'm aware of the disproportionate cost of petrol and an average of 20 mpg around town,,, if your lucky is not cheap,
Absolutely - I certainly get to half-way through the month and start thinking "Uhoh ... best stop buying sh!t!" ... but then again driving around in a fat-arsed Renault Megane also tells you that it is possible to take 'being frugal' to a level where you just can't bear to see yourself reflected in a shop window (thankfully there are few shop windows here in the New Forest) and that sometimes it's better to just spend the money on fuel and take the Tiv instead...ClassiChimi said:
Daves car is the opposite to that in cost terms but no less fun to drive I'm sure of that, the gas tanks are far stronger than petrol tanks so that's ok too, it's his choice and I think it's funkie and mad and exciting and very very stupid but it works better than almost all Tvr's I've seen, you can not argue with facts. It's the running of the engine,, it's mad how smooth and perfect the firing strokes are.
Agreed ... there's a certain level of perversion about what Dave's done in fitting LPG but it works beautifully. How he's had the tanks sorted is fantastic!ClassiChimi said:
But your worse than me for promoting the things your passionate about Dave,,
...or better than you? Phil
Edited by Bassfiendnoideawhathp on Thursday 15th September 07:25
Thanks chaps, Alun for defending me, Phil for putting the record straight and the rest of you for injecting some fun by taking the pish.
Truth is I've got a super thick skin and pish taking is all part of the forum fun as long as it remains good natured, I'm also aware my incessant self promotion opens me up for the odd dig, but the way I see it the guys making the jokes must be the very same people who've been following my madness or they wouldn't be making gags about it
I therefore take all this as a massive compliment, especially when people have actually taken the time to create jokey pictures naming me next to the great and sadly missed Gene Wilder, so I want to take this opportunity to thank all those who've followed of my project and suffered my overly verbose posts. I do hope people get something from it all even if it's just a bit of light entertainment, this is a hobby forum after all, where we discuss our hobby, so hopefully none of us allow ourselves to fall in the trap of taking ourselves too seriously while enjoying our hobby
Serious is for our working lives, PH on the other hand is a means of escaping the mundane BS we must all suffer in our day to day lives, if only for a few minutes a day.
Back on topic you'll see I saved £200 this year by taking the TVR to France instead of following the rest of the lobotomised penguins onto an EasyJet flight. I spent this £200 on wine and cheese and had the adventure the said penguins are reading about in the paperback they bought in WH Smiths at the airport before waddling on the big aluminium tube with their little clear plastic bag filled with toothpaste & deodorant. The penguins then spent two weeks sat by the pool trying to forget just how dull their sad lives really are, that's not for me, I need a bit more from my holidays which is why I choose to take the TVR instead.
But if wine & cheese is not your bag £200 buys you 1,000 miles of TVR petrol so don't worry yourself with my demented LPG project, just fill up with the expensive stuff and head for the glorious roads of France safe in the knowledge it's still actually cheaper than following the herd. Because following those lobotomised penguins to Costa Del Moron for your next summer holiday just so you can sit by the pool for two weeks dreaming about driving your TVR on the great roads the coach followed to drop you at your hotel is committing the worst kind of crime on yourself
If you've got any testosterone left in your body don't ask the wife tell her this years summer holiday is gong to be different, take her on a TVR adventure into deepest France where there'll be no holiday rep selling you dumb ass day trips on a coach full of retards, no annoying fellow penguins boring you with stories of how they made another £50k of equity of their buy to let in Slough, and no shuffling on and off that SqueezyJet flight so you can spend the next two weeks trapped in a hotel that's actually miles from any culture connection with the country you may as well not be visiting
Truth is I've got a super thick skin and pish taking is all part of the forum fun as long as it remains good natured, I'm also aware my incessant self promotion opens me up for the odd dig, but the way I see it the guys making the jokes must be the very same people who've been following my madness or they wouldn't be making gags about it
I therefore take all this as a massive compliment, especially when people have actually taken the time to create jokey pictures naming me next to the great and sadly missed Gene Wilder, so I want to take this opportunity to thank all those who've followed of my project and suffered my overly verbose posts. I do hope people get something from it all even if it's just a bit of light entertainment, this is a hobby forum after all, where we discuss our hobby, so hopefully none of us allow ourselves to fall in the trap of taking ourselves too seriously while enjoying our hobby
Serious is for our working lives, PH on the other hand is a means of escaping the mundane BS we must all suffer in our day to day lives, if only for a few minutes a day.
Back on topic you'll see I saved £200 this year by taking the TVR to France instead of following the rest of the lobotomised penguins onto an EasyJet flight. I spent this £200 on wine and cheese and had the adventure the said penguins are reading about in the paperback they bought in WH Smiths at the airport before waddling on the big aluminium tube with their little clear plastic bag filled with toothpaste & deodorant. The penguins then spent two weeks sat by the pool trying to forget just how dull their sad lives really are, that's not for me, I need a bit more from my holidays which is why I choose to take the TVR instead.
But if wine & cheese is not your bag £200 buys you 1,000 miles of TVR petrol so don't worry yourself with my demented LPG project, just fill up with the expensive stuff and head for the glorious roads of France safe in the knowledge it's still actually cheaper than following the herd. Because following those lobotomised penguins to Costa Del Moron for your next summer holiday just so you can sit by the pool for two weeks dreaming about driving your TVR on the great roads the coach followed to drop you at your hotel is committing the worst kind of crime on yourself
If you've got any testosterone left in your body don't ask the wife tell her this years summer holiday is gong to be different, take her on a TVR adventure into deepest France where there'll be no holiday rep selling you dumb ass day trips on a coach full of retards, no annoying fellow penguins boring you with stories of how they made another £50k of equity of their buy to let in Slough, and no shuffling on and off that SqueezyJet flight so you can spend the next two weeks trapped in a hotel that's actually miles from any culture connection with the country you may as well not be visiting
When I say ramming his facts, I suppose it doesn't always look as amusing as I hope, I'm no word smith, you and Dave are, a bit like his car, perverse and as we all know a bit perverse is often rather enjoyable.
I thought I was sticking up for him, not that he needs a kid with one O level defending him.
I sort of argue for fun, so does Dave I think, when I met him I liked him very much, top fella and yes his advise is often just what the doctor ordered, a good man indeed.
I read every post he's written since I've been on here, I'll work out what he's saying later,,,
Tvr/LPG it's the craziest thing to most minds,,, but it makes perfect sense and he has proven it.
I understand the need almost, to tell people how much joy he gets from his Tvr, I drive mine off the drive and want to tell you guys how good it felt
I got very upset over a couple of the lads having fun with me, I regret that as you can imagine, take the pee, as long as it doesn't appear a personal attack then it's light relief from the riggers of our world some days,
I do remember the sperm remarks
It struck a cord with me as I too once had a girl who I gave everything too, I once mentioned getting a Tvr, she seemed interested until it became obvious it was more beautiful than her, she went right off the idea, her days were numbered from that moment on.
Your a sound man then Phil, I'm deaf cos we had a bad sound engineer when in the band ( he was ace actually
Funnily enough I'm looking around for a pre amp for my Roland electric drums
Anyway I digress,,,, !
I'm not ready for LPG on my Tvr but if I own my car in another 5-10 years time Daves work here may well influence me more than I'd really like to admit.
Finally I will thank Dave for posting his results over his Brembo brake upgrade,
It made it easy for me to get the correct spec of parts and with his indirect help I'd ordered all I needed in one evening,
The results are like his LPG conversion, outstanding.
Right enough kissing ass,
Who in there right mind would put LPG on a Tvr,,, Dave that's who, brave brave fella and good on him.
I thought I was sticking up for him, not that he needs a kid with one O level defending him.
I sort of argue for fun, so does Dave I think, when I met him I liked him very much, top fella and yes his advise is often just what the doctor ordered, a good man indeed.
I read every post he's written since I've been on here, I'll work out what he's saying later,,,
Tvr/LPG it's the craziest thing to most minds,,, but it makes perfect sense and he has proven it.
I understand the need almost, to tell people how much joy he gets from his Tvr, I drive mine off the drive and want to tell you guys how good it felt
I got very upset over a couple of the lads having fun with me, I regret that as you can imagine, take the pee, as long as it doesn't appear a personal attack then it's light relief from the riggers of our world some days,
I do remember the sperm remarks
It struck a cord with me as I too once had a girl who I gave everything too, I once mentioned getting a Tvr, she seemed interested until it became obvious it was more beautiful than her, she went right off the idea, her days were numbered from that moment on.
Your a sound man then Phil, I'm deaf cos we had a bad sound engineer when in the band ( he was ace
actually Funnily enough I'm looking around for a pre amp for my Roland electric drums
Anyway I digress,,,, !
I'm not ready for LPG on my Tvr but if I own my car in another 5-10 years time Daves work here may well influence me more than I'd really like to admit.
Finally I will thank Dave for posting his results over his Brembo brake upgrade,
It made it easy for me to get the correct spec of parts and with his indirect help I'd ordered all I needed in one evening,
The results are like his LPG conversion, outstanding.
Right enough kissing ass,
Who in there right mind would put LPG on a Tvr,,, Dave that's who, brave brave fella and good on him.
ChimpOnGas said:
Thanks chaps, Alun for defending me, Phil for putting the record straight and the rest of you for injecting some fun by taking the pish.
Truth is I've got a super thick skin and pish taking is all part of the forum fun as long as it remains good natured, I'm also aware my incessant self promotion opens me up for the odd dig, but the way I see it the guys making the jokes must be the very same people who've been following my madness or they wouldn't be making gags about it
I therefore take all this as a massive compliment, especially when people have actually taken the time to create jokey pictures naming me next to the great and sadly missed Gene Wilder, so I want to take this opportunity to thank all those who've followed of my project and suffered my overly verbose posts. I do hope people get something from it all even if it's just a bit of light entertainment, this is a hobby forum after all, where we discuss our hobby, so hopefully none of us allow ourselves to fall in the trap of taking ourselves too seriously while enjoying our hobby
Serious is for our working lives, PH on the other hand is a means of escaping the mundane BS we must all suffer in our day to day lives, if only for a few minutes a day.
Back on topic you'll see I saved £200 this year by taking the TVR to France instead of following the rest of the lobotomised penguins onto an EasyJet flight. I spent this £200 on wine and cheese and had the adventure the said penguins are reading about in the paperback they bought in WH Smiths at the airport before waddling on the big aluminium tube with their little clear plastic bag filled with toothpaste & deodorant. The penguins then spent two weeks sat by the pool trying to forget just how dull their sad lives really are, that's not for me, I need a bit more from my holidays which is why I choose to take the TVR instead.
But if wine & cheese is not your bag £200 buys you 1,000 miles of TVR petrol so don't worry yourself with my demented LPG project, just fill up with the expensive stuff and head for the glorious roads of France safe in the knowledge it's still actually cheaper than following the herd. Because following those lobotomised penguins to Costa Del Moron for your next summer holiday just so you can sit by the pool for two weeks dreaming about driving your TVR on the great roads the coach followed to drop you at your hotel is committing the worst kind of crime on yourself
If you've got any testosterone left in your body don't ask the wife tell her this years summer holiday is gong to be different, take her on a TVR adventure into deepest France where there'll be no holiday rep selling you dumb ass day trips on a coach full of retards, no annoying fellow penguins boring you with stories of how they made another £50k of equity of their buy to let in Slough, and no shuffling on and off that SqueezyJet flight so you can spend the next two weeks trapped in a hotel that's actually miles from any culture connection with the country you may as well not be visiting
I'm laughing my flipping head off, kindred spirit, I just wish I was as clever as this boy.Truth is I've got a super thick skin and pish taking is all part of the forum fun as long as it remains good natured, I'm also aware my incessant self promotion opens me up for the odd dig, but the way I see it the guys making the jokes must be the very same people who've been following my madness or they wouldn't be making gags about it
I therefore take all this as a massive compliment, especially when people have actually taken the time to create jokey pictures naming me next to the great and sadly missed Gene Wilder, so I want to take this opportunity to thank all those who've followed of my project and suffered my overly verbose posts. I do hope people get something from it all even if it's just a bit of light entertainment, this is a hobby forum after all, where we discuss our hobby, so hopefully none of us allow ourselves to fall in the trap of taking ourselves too seriously while enjoying our hobby
Serious is for our working lives, PH on the other hand is a means of escaping the mundane BS we must all suffer in our day to day lives, if only for a few minutes a day.
Back on topic you'll see I saved £200 this year by taking the TVR to France instead of following the rest of the lobotomised penguins onto an EasyJet flight. I spent this £200 on wine and cheese and had the adventure the said penguins are reading about in the paperback they bought in WH Smiths at the airport before waddling on the big aluminium tube with their little clear plastic bag filled with toothpaste & deodorant. The penguins then spent two weeks sat by the pool trying to forget just how dull their sad lives really are, that's not for me, I need a bit more from my holidays which is why I choose to take the TVR instead.
But if wine & cheese is not your bag £200 buys you 1,000 miles of TVR petrol so don't worry yourself with my demented LPG project, just fill up with the expensive stuff and head for the glorious roads of France safe in the knowledge it's still actually cheaper than following the herd. Because following those lobotomised penguins to Costa Del Moron for your next summer holiday just so you can sit by the pool for two weeks dreaming about driving your TVR on the great roads the coach followed to drop you at your hotel is committing the worst kind of crime on yourself
If you've got any testosterone left in your body don't ask the wife tell her this years summer holiday is gong to be different, take her on a TVR adventure into deepest France where there'll be no holiday rep selling you dumb ass day trips on a coach full of retards, no annoying fellow penguins boring you with stories of how they made another £50k of equity of their buy to let in Slough, and no shuffling on and off that SqueezyJet flight so you can spend the next two weeks trapped in a hotel that's actually miles from any culture connection with the country you may as well not be visiting
I hate your bloody LPG conversion because it challenges my conceptions,, but I've seen it and that dispels them as out dated bigotry.
It is so impressive surely the LPG industry would /should high light what your doing with this crazy assed motor, mad scientist and all that aside,
Don't miss conceive common consensus as fact I was once told.
Your making me want to fill up, grab a credit card and passport and hitting them great European roads,, alas I'm at Rockingham this weekend trying to work out one end of a Mazda from the other.
We need humour to survive the BS in life,,
Big Al,,,,, hahah
davetripletvr said:
Fantastic entertainment, as i sit here bored
stupid with a shattered tibia and fibia as well as another health problem i wont mention. Reading this keeps me going and puts a smile on my face
And me mate stupid with a shattered tibia and fibia as well as another health problem i wont mention. Reading this keeps me going and puts a smile on my face when your inbetween a rock and a hard place this Pistonheads forum can lighten your mood considerably.The advice and help provided on here is why Tvr's now exist at all it seems to me.
TVRCC is a good place to start when you discover Tvr but this place takes ownership to a different level,
Deadly on your wallet but b
ks to that, you end up with a good car if you take the advice. Your wallet can recover, you'll never recover because you'll be hooked.
Keep smiling
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