Subwoofer - Bass in general

[shortlad]

I know I should be listening to the exhaust but would like to get some more bass in the car.

Question is…. Is there any way to do this?

I have upgraded my fronts and have 6”X9” speakers in the rear.

I was thinking about a sub in the back in between the 6”X9” speakers if one can fit????

OR

Has anyone tried using the little cubbyholes behind the seats?? Or is this space too small for any bass???

Someone told me if I put an amp on the 6”X9” I would get more bass, anyone tried this and what success?

Cheers for any advice.

[scared but happy]

Previous owner has had installed speakers behind seats (ie infront of fuel tank) speakers+tweeters in door and multi-changer in boot plus massive amp 4xunknown size on passanger side, the base is AWESOME!! and extra carpeting all over - to be honest I cannot have it over 1/2 volume. but using it is a sin for covering the true music of your Chim

[shortlad]

scared but happy said:

but using it is a sin for covering the true music of your Chim

Many thanks for that and I do agree, its only rare occasions that I want some music. Big music fan and love a little bass... Just looking for the best solution for the car as I know I'm wasting my time going for a big install.

Advice/pictures of installs appreciated.

[Philf329]

In my car a previous owner had the subwoofer mounted in the middle of the rear shelf in a box trimmed so it looks like an extension of the gearbox tunnel padding etc. It splits the rear shelf into two seperate sections & looks standard. Amp in boot & uprated door speakers.

>> Edited by Philf329 on Sunday 13th March 23:45

[shortlad]

Philf329 said:

In my car a previous owner had the subwoofer mounted in the middle of the rear shelf in a box trimmed so it looks like an extension of the gearbox tunnel padding etc. It splits the rear shelf into two seperate sections & looks standard. Amp in boot & uprated door speakers. >> Edited by Philf329 on Sunday 13th March 23:45

Sounds like a good idea, is it a customer box do you know?

Any pictures?

[parrot of doom]

What speakers do you have in the door? If you're pumping bass from the rear speakers, and also the door speakers, then the effect will be less bass as they will tend to cancel each other out.

Try putting a high pass filter across your door speakers to reduce the bass from them.

[shortlad]

parrot of doom said:

What speakers do you have in the door? If you're pumping bass from the rear speakers, and also the door speakers, then the effect will be less bass as they will tend to cancel each other out. Try putting a high pass filter across your door speakers to reduce the bass from them.

I have Infinity 652.5i 2-ways in the front and Infinity 6X9's in the rear. The fronts should be classed as mid a tweeter.

What do you think?

[philf329]

My subwoofer box must be custom made but it looks standard fit for the car as it is trimmed to blend & match the interior. I have lost around a third of the rear shelf though.

I will try & take some pics tomorrow & post them on.

Phil

[shortlad]

philf329 said:

I will try & take some pics tomorrow & post them on.

Many thanks would appreciate that.

[philf329]

Phil

I am not sure how to post the pictures so I will e-mail them to you & maybe you can post them on if anyone else wants to see them. Its difficult to see in the picture but the amp is mounted flush with the boot floor. In the front there are uprated door speakers with separate tweeters.

[david beer]

My last Griff i had two 10 inch subs in the back, flush mounted and amps aplenty, hardly listened to it. This Griff with just 6.5 cm door speakers and a 2x 200 w amp and you really do not need any more bass. So, with a good amp, bass is much easier, its on the low frequency/ bass notes that things distort. If interested, email me for details, cant advertise !

[parrot of doom]

The problem isn't so much the sizes of the cones. Its the physical size of the enclosure. Behind those 6x9 is a Gnat's chuff of space before you hit the fuel tank, which will be pants for bass fidelity.

I'd consider removing the rear speakers and connecting a small subwoofer, mounted in the boot, or you could get a bass tube, pull the carpet back, put the tube under the carpet and have it retrimmed so its nicely disguised.

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Or try that, no idea how good it is, but the subwoofer in my Audi TT was probably about the same size and it sounded pretty damn good.

[only me]

I have the same speakers as you I believe but I have amped the 6 x 9 rears and this makes a huge difference, not massive amounts of bass but enough ! good quality sound that can be played loud without distortion .

[parrot of doom]

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Thinking about putting that in mine, just on top of the petrol tank. I reckon it would just about fit, theres 5 inches at the shelf on the tank. If it didn't fit there, I could always mount it in the bottom of the boot somewhere No spare wheel to worry about......

The other option I suppose is to put an 8 inch sub in the cubbyhole behind one of the seats, mounted onto a nice bit of wood and secured in place.

[no brakes]

put a set of 3 way pioneer door speakers in behind the vents in back of car.bass comes from the boot and sounds awesome.

[shortlad]

Thanks for all the feed back on this one and more will always be welcome.

Going to take it in stages I think by starting with putting a decent amp on the rears.

If thats still not enough I think I'll start to look at a custom sub on the parcel shelf.

Cheers all

[no1bassmonkey]

A good clean bass response is very hard to generate in such a car as a Chim, the problem is that most coventional cars have the enclosure mounted in the boot. The boot then essentially works as a kind of amplifier for the enclosure, it helps increase the output of the enclosure, the problem with the chim is that you cant do that. I would suggest that to get the best cleanest bass response that you look towards a sealed enclosure, this wil give you the best response, might not be the loudest but will add to what the current install and help to get some mid-bass fill along with a good punch. I work in car audio and have been tempted to do a nice install in my chim similar to one that we have just finished in a lambo, my problem still remains, that no matter how much you love music, no matter what tune you put on, you are still spoiling the best track in the world --- Rover V8.

[richb]

no1bassmonkey said:

...Chim, the problem is that most conventional cars have the enclosure mounted in the boot. The boot then essentially works as a kind of amplifier for the enclosure... the problem with the Chim is that you cant do that.

When you say you can't do that, why not? Can't you simply mount the bass units on the rear bulkhead and vent them into the boot cavity? Rich...

[2 Smokin Barrels]

parrot of doom said:

[url]Thinking about putting that in mine, just on top of the petrol tank.

Polly Parrot..is that as well as remote locking, remote boot opening & a new roof !

[david beer]

richb said:

no1bassmonkey said: ...Chim, the problem is that most conventional cars have the enclosure mounted in the boot. The boot then essentially works as a kind of amplifier for the enclosure... the problem with the Chim is that you cant do that. When you say you can't do that, why not? Can't you simply mount the bass units on the rear bulkhead and vent them into the boot cavity? Rich...

Indeed you can, my last Griff had two 10 inch subs mounted in such a way. No1, who do you work for,im in the ICE industry.

>> Edited by david beer on Thursday 17th March 18:34