Chimaera Mk3 - How many built?
Chimaera Mk3 - How many built?
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halcyongriff500

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67 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Does anyone know how many Mk3 Chimaeras were built and when?
In 'Cars of the Peter Wheeler Era' P.97 Ralph Dodds mentions the 'Chimaera Limited Edition' 2002-3 and states that 100 were built, is he referring to the Mk3?
I have recently bought what appears to be a Mk3, it has 16" Imola wheels all round, faired-in headlights, Cerbera seats with pump-up lumbar support, and a 450 engine but it was built in 2001!
Any of these features can be retro-fitted to a Mk2 and it would look the same, and I have seen 'Mk3s' advertised with the 500 engine also 2001 vintage.
A friend ordered his Chimaera new from the factory, he was frustrated that the 500 engine was no longer available and had to settle for the 450, it was delivered in 2002 and was definitely a Mk3 with the faired-in headlights, Cerbera seats, 16" wheels all round fitted by TVR from new.
Does Ralph Dodds' 'Chimaera Limited Edition' = Mk3, if so were the 'real Mk3s' only built 2002-3?
I'll take off my anorak now!



glow worm

6,923 posts

249 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Not sure about Ralph Dodds information .. There were supposed to be 100 Griff Limited Editions which became more than 100, first I've heard of 100 LE Chims.
But these are the best factory Chim figures

Mines a 2001 MK3, don't think there were any before 2000 . Other than covered lights not sure how many of the other features were by design or were about availability ... 16" wheels because 15" tyres became hard to source, Cerbera seats because they were around (I'm told the high lift boot hinges were on earlier models) , auto window closing on the alarm ??? .
Is yours a Malaysian MK3 ?? Check the bonnet passenger side near the hinge for TVR98 impression smile

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Never heard of a Chimaera Limited Edition.

The Griffith did have the 100 run out Editions.

Apart front the differences mentioned there was nothing to indicate that the MK3 was anything Limited or Special.

I recall the 500 was dropped due to the availability of parts, and continued with only the 450 for a year or so.

I think the differences you mentioned came in around 2001.


halcyongriff500

Original Poster:

67 posts

272 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Thanks Glow Worm, those are the most detailed figures I've seen, where did you get them?
My car is at the garage at the moment with the dashboard top off awaiting a replacement heater fan control unit, fortunately I was able to source a used unit [Thanks Bill!]. [TVR Parts can recondition your old unit but the turnaround is 6 - 8 weeks, new ones are not available] I'll look for that TVR98 impression when I get it car back.
It also has clear front indicator lenses that look original as there is slight corrosion.
From those figures could we assume that all 2001 on-wards Chimaeras are Mk3s? [2001] 73 + [2002] 20 + [2003] 5 = 98 pretty close to the 100 'LE's Ralph Dodds mentions.
In The Bible [P17] Steve Heath estimated that 200 Chimaeras were built in 2001, albeit he qualifies that by saying 'Estimates based on production figures from the other cars'

halcyongriff500

Original Poster:

67 posts

272 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Thanks for your reply Supraman. I agree, other than Ralph Dodds mention I'd never heard of a Chimaera Limited Edition either.
There were 100 Griffith LEs, each car having a numbered plaque in the glovebox, so far as I'm aware the differences from the preceding Griffith 500s were: Cerbera seats, a modernised dash board [with late Chimaera switch-gear], different back lights, larger headlights, clear front indicators and 16" wheels all round.

TR4man

5,447 posts

196 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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I bought a MK3 in early October from David Gerald (as I still call them!).

It's a 2001 with all the updates as mentioned in previous posts but also has a digital odometer.


anonymous-user

76 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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I think the Digital Odometer came in around 98/99, before the mk3 facelift.

I do prefer the mk3 with the faired in lights though.


Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 30th December 21:29

ianwayne

7,679 posts

290 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Mine is a March 2000 reg 4.0 and has the analogue odometer. It has black faced gauges though so maybe the the digital odometer didn't come in on a specific date, just when they ran out of the old ones!

ou sont les biscuits

5,426 posts

217 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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ianwayne said:
Mine is a March 2000 reg 4.0 and has the analogue odometer. It has black faced gauges though so maybe the the digital odometer didn't come in on a specific date, just when they ran out of the old ones!
Mine is a very late '99 with the standard colour gauges and an analogue odometer. FWIW It also has high lift boot hinges and faired in headlights.

TR4man

5,447 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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A very minor thing, but I notice that my MK3 doesn't have an ashtray at all (but does have the lighter in the driver's door).

Where I've seen ashtrays on previous Chimaeras, mine has air vents. Was this another MK3 upgrade?


QBee

22,065 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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TR4man said:
A very minor thing, but I notice that my MK3 doesn't have an ashtray at all (but does have the lighter in the driver's door).

Where I've seen ashtrays on previous Chimaeras, mine has air vents. Was this another MK3 upgrade?

My late 99 mark 2 has no ashtrays either, but has the fag lighter.
I think TVR may have already realised by then that the socket has more uses than just lighting gaspers.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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My 97 build (registered 19 years ago today smile ) doesn't have ash tray's either. I didn't know whether it was a smoking pack option?

glow worm

6,923 posts

249 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Yes there was a smoking pack option (strange Peter Wheeler didn't make it compulsory ) . There was also a change to bevelled ally indicator stalks (after market Leven ones are round) and rake adjuster . I think the ally handbrake cover came as Std item rather than the Leven upgrade.
I've moved the power socket from the door to under the dash, used to be pain opening the door with Satnav plugged into the socket in the door.

TR4man I also changed my pedals to Leven stainless ones smile

Edited by glow worm on Sunday 1st January 12:45

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,681 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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anonymous said:
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My early '98 had digi odo



2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,681 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
anonymous said:
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My early '98 had digi odo

Doh! Make that my 2000 (I'm getting addled)

glow worm

6,923 posts

249 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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How many people have trouble setting the clock ? It takes me ages ... the button never stops when I want it to and I have to go around 4 or 5 times before I stop it at the right time smile .
I think I'll give up with British Summer Time and leave it a hour out jester

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,681 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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glow worm said:
How many people have trouble setting the clock ? It takes me ages ... the button never stops when I want it to and I have to go around 4 or 5 times before I stop it at the right time smile .
https://www.specsavers.co.uk/

ClassicChimaera

12,424 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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glow worm said:
How many people have trouble setting the clock ? It takes me ages ... the button never stops when I want it to and I have to go around 4 or 5 times before I stop it at the right time smile .
I think I'll give up with British Summer Time and leave it a hour out jester
I've had that problem smile
It reminds me of turning in on a fast go cart, you need to anticipate it and do it a split second early or you'll miss the bend by the time you've reacted hehe

My clock is very accurate though, doesn't seem to lose anytime. smile

ou sont les biscuits

5,426 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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glow worm said:
How many people have trouble setting the clock ? It takes me ages ... the button never stops when I want it to and I have to go around 4 or 5 times before I stop it at the right time smile .
I think I'll give up with British Summer Time and leave it a hour out jester
I replaced the clock with a voltmeter. The button on mine had packed up and I couldn't set it anyway. The radio has a clock in it if I need to know what time it is and I can't see my watch.

Given the electrical 'issues' that TVR's are plagued with it seemed like a sensible mod to make.

It was quite interesting trying to find a place behind the dashboard that reflected what the true voltage at the battery was. Readings from various points in the loom varied quite a lot. I ended up taking a feed from the supply to the radio, which was showing the highest voltage smile

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,681 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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ou sont les biscuits said:
glow worm said:
How many people have trouble setting the clock ? It takes me ages ... the button never stops when I want it to and I have to go around 4 or 5 times before I stop it at the right time smile .
I think I'll give up with British Summer Time and leave it a hour out jester
I replaced the clock with a voltmeter. The button on mine had packed up and I couldn't set it anyway. The radio has a clock in it if I need to know what time it is and I can't see my watch.

Given the electrical 'issues' that TVR's are plagued with it seemed like a sensible mod to make.

It was quite interesting trying to find a place behind the dashboard that reflected what the true voltage at the battery was. Readings from various points in the loom varied quite a lot. I ended up taking a feed from the supply to the radio, which was showing the highest voltage smile
You've just removed the only accurate device on the whole of the dash! hehe