Its time to waterproof he hood - help please
Its time to waterproof he hood - help please
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tvrmadmarc

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54 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Wise old owls - I am a hood re-waterproof virgin and would welcome advice on how, products etc etc

Many thanks in anticipation.

Marc

petros

2,441 posts

258 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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If you mean the roof, I did my Chim back in Feb. with fabsil and she's been out every day since in some very heavy rain and not leaked a drop. peter

zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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After having a bad roof leak early this year I proofed mine with bog standard Thomsons water seal (make sure its the standard red tin, the advanced isn't meant for canvas). Did the job perfectly and hasn't leaked since.

kenny chim 4

1,604 posts

287 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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I agree with Petros RE Fabsil. You can buy a tin (not the spray can) from outdoor/camping shops for about £11. Decant into a bowl and use a paintbrush to apply to the whole roof- including the targa panel.

It dries quickly and leaves no residue. I give the velcro/stitched sections behind the windows a double coat

>> Edited by kenny chim 4 on Thursday 14th April 23:41

philf329

243 posts

267 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Used Thomsons water seal last summer on the hood & very impressed with it as the Chim lives outside & is used every day. Be careful not to overapply though as it is very 'thin' and IMHO could seep through the hood onto the interior if you are not careful.

tobeee

1,436 posts

297 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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I did mine last night! Thomsons Water Seal. Top stuff and sorted all the duck pond problems I had when I first bought the car a couple of years ago. Leaves it looking like even more black too!

>> Edited by tobeee on Friday 15th April 08:38

adiandvic

299 posts

264 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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my vote goes to thimpsons water seal, great finish

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Mine goes to Fabsil - they "say" they will not raise taxes ....!!

Trev McM

full_chat

287 posts

305 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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I agree with Thompsons. As you are a virgin the process I would do is clean the hood first, you will see any big bits of dirt(bird poo) - a damp cloth usually does the trick, then I find going over it with a vacuum cleaner gets the dust off, then proof away, do it sparingly and you'll soon get a 'feel' for it.

jem

548 posts

269 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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use a renovo kit first to re establish the colour.

J

Nuggs

4,640 posts

263 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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jem said:
use a renovo kit first to re establish the colour.

although some colours aren't supported. Also, the Renovo colour may not quite match the original hood colour. For that reason I run a vacuum cleaner over the roof and then use Autoglym's Fabric Hood Conditioner to spruce it up a bit.

I've always used Renovo waterproofer, but hear good things about Fabsil and Thompson's.

Whatever you use, I would recommend that you have a paper towel handy to wipe up any overspray. Also, go over any mopped up overspray with Autoglym Super Resin Polish to make sure it's all off...

jem

548 posts

269 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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nuggs - would you go renovo waterproofer first/only and is it able to be over proofed with thompsons or fabsil?

J

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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OK pop-pickers I have just finished my hood and here is what I found to be a good sequence.

1) Vacuum the hood
2) Use some specialist hood cleaner, I washed mine twice with Tuurtle Wax fabric roof cleaner
3) Remove the centre panel and lay on table
4) With the rest of the hood in Targa position mask off all surrounding areas with 2" masking tape, under the roof bar, the rear window, either side of the Targa panel, body etc.
5) Apply two or three coats of Renovo roof restorer, applying in straight lines working from the centre allowing each coat to dry overnight
6) Apply two coats of Thompsons Waterseal to the roof and panel again allowing each one to dry overnight.

Comes up lovely!

The beauty of doing it with the panel out of the car is that all fabric in the joins and recesses gets an even colour continuation.

chimburt

751 posts

288 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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i'd also add that you should mask off the rubbers, on the back part of the hood, and on the ends of the targa panel, as thompson's causes the rubber to swell a bit.
otherwise it's great stuff and cheap.
have used fabsil in the past on tents and it didn't last too well on those, can't comment on the hood.


edited to also add, i used the folded edge of newspaper pages pushed in around the targa seal, which the rubber held in place.
used lots of paper around the base of the hood with masking tape - and don't leave that on the paint to dry out a lot, as this will leave behind glue on the paint.
sheets over the seats.
didn't bother to mask the window, was just very careful, as the tompsons is thin enough to wick round the canvas.
wipe any spills immediately with clean soft cloth, particularly on the window i'm told ( never left any there long enough to find out what happens, but i can imagine the solvents attacking the plastic ).

lastly the covers sold by the likes of leven go right over the hood and the windscreen, which means if you do have to leave the car outside in heavy rain for any length of time, it makes it much more pleasent intially - like it's been in the garage. easier on the nerves too
not essential ( my car hasn't leaked at all, in the time i've had it ) though - the hood is designed to keep the interior dry, after all

>> Edited by chimburt on Saturday 16th April 00:33

tvrmadmarc

Original Poster:

54 posts

259 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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One and all a sincere thanks - I have to wait for the rain to cease hear in wales and i will crack on!!!

Cheers

Marc

johnnocosworth

27 posts

257 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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I'm probably being dense here, but is thompsons water seal the same as you can use on brickwork?

Where can I get some?

I've had my car a week now, and the heavy rains of thursday and friday have left me with wet carpets, worse at the rear edges of the doors, so I'm guessing it needs waterproofing asap.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Yes, its the same stuff. You should be able to get it from B&Q, or perhaps ordered from Screwfix.

If your carpets are wet, pull them out immediately! You don't want them to start smelling the car out, and they'll take ages to dry out properly left in the car.

Check the rubber seals around the Targa section, make sure they're all intact as a worn seal could be letting water in as well.

bojger

12 posts

262 months

Monday 18th April 2005
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Corin - I wanted to find out if Renovo Restorer works well with Thompsons and you've answered my question.

Did you have to buy 1L of the 'Soft Top Reviver' or was 500ml sufficient for two coats. I'm planning to do the job in the summer.

Cheers

Mark

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

279 months

Monday 18th April 2005
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bojger said:
Did you have to buy 1L of the 'Soft Top Reviver' or was 500ml sufficient for two coats. I'm planning to do the job in the summer.

Cheers

Mark



500ml is more than enough for two coats, probably get four coats out of it.


>> Edited by sgrimshaw on Monday 18th April 20:23

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Monday 18th April 2005
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bojger said:
Corin - I wanted to find out if Renovo Restorer works well with Thompsons and you've answered my question.

Did you have to buy 1L of the 'Soft Top Reviver' or was 500ml sufficient for two coats. I'm planning to do the job in the summer.

Cheers

Mark


Three coats from a 500ml bottle and still got some left!