T5 gearbox remote linkage
T5 gearbox remote linkage
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Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Time to take the gearbox out to sort the leaking rear oil seal and sort the clutch.

I know I need to undo the remote linkage but which bit, all of it?

Any help appreciated.

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Carefully unbolt the two nuts and bolts and remove from the linkage.
Carefully remove the inner nylon sleeves before trying to separate the linkage.
There is also a very thin nylon thrust washer on each side as well, a total of four.
When these are removed you can lift the sliding rod and gearstick out of the way.

It is a good idea to remove this as you can clean it and grease it before reassembly for a smoother shift.

Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Thanks Phazed

Can this be completed from under the car or does the tunnel cover need to come out and tackle it from above?

I think know the answer.......

Edited by Mr Plow on Friday 29th December 09:58

Stew Mc

401 posts

195 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Hi Liam.

When I did the Griff, I removed the centre console. I think it can all be done from underneath but console removal was not bad and made life easier as the car was on axle stands. Presume a Chimeara would be similar? If not, I am sure someone will be along shortly to correct me lol.

Good luck mate.

N7GTX

8,258 posts

165 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Not sure if the pics in this thread will help?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=14...

Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Thanks all

Linkage is off.

I'm going to split the box and bell housing to take them both out separately. I'm not as strong as I use to be.

Having trouble getting the two top bolts undone, also having trouble getting the engine to bell housing bolts undone. I think I need to find some muscles from somewhere!!

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Use several long socket extensions from the rear of the gearbox.

The top 2 can be accessed from the top with the plenum removed or tilt the engine back.

Mr Plow

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250 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Definitely putting up a fight.....

It wasn't a cheap one either.

Edited by Mr Plow on Sunday 31st December 11:02

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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You should be able to remove all of them without a universal joint.
If you have one, try a wiggle extension bar as the first extension on the socket.

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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just to add, i usually use about five extensions to bring the ratchet or breaker bar right back to the tail shaft of the gearbox.

Sardonicus

19,311 posts

243 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Mr Plow said:


Definitely putting up a fight.....

It wasn't a cheap one either.

Edited by Mr Plow on Sunday 31st December 11:02
Trust me that is crude frown hope your using 1/2 drive scratchchin and like Peter says extend extensions near to tail-housing for unobstructed leverage

Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Been a little while since I've managed to spend time on the car. Good news though, gearbox is out.
Oil seal and the small cross seals are leaking so will replace them all.
While it's all apart is there any reason why I won't fit a lightened flywheel? It's a 4.5 that to my knowledge hasn't had a bottom end rebuild.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Healthy debate biggrin
Is there a risk you’ll introduce shunt.
The 450 is famed for its balance or so I’d like to think wink
I was advised against it that’s all I actually know smile
The rewards would be slightly faster pick up and higher revvin I’d have thought but how much difference it actually makes is a good question. The engines pulling a tonne of weight I can’t see a few pounds off making a good overall difference but I’ve been known to be wrong smile

Was it balanced at the factory in production stage with flywheel on I wonder.
Some say it’s no problem others disagree.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

201 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Mr Plow said:
Been a little while since I've managed to spend time on the car. Good news though, gearbox is out.
Oil seal and the small cross seals are leaking so will replace them all.
While it's all apart is there any reason why I won't fit a lightened flywheel? It's a 4.5 that to my knowledge hasn't had a bottom end rebuild.
No brainer, the standard flywheel is a millstone.

My original cast iron 4.0 litre flywheel weighed in at a mahoosive 28lbs, I had it machined down to 23lbs pretty quickly which made a massive difference.

A few years later I'd sold that lightened cast flywheel and replaced it with an 18lb steel one from TTS, better still......... and still no downsides, drivability remained perfect but the engine spins up so much faster which changes the character of the car and makes the Old Rover V8 feel much more like a sports car engine.

If I enjoyed regular track days I'd probably take it down to 15lbs, if I was off-roading or pulling a horse box in my TVR the original 28lbs millstone would be perfect.... but if like me you want the engine to gather revs far better yet remain a pussy cat on the road... then 18lbs is the sweet spot.

Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Thanks both

My crank has a locating dowel as does the current flywheel. It looks like aftermarket flywheel don't have the hole for the locating dowel?
Is it a case of just removing it from the crank?

phazed

22,447 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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If you are talking about the spigot bush then these can be renewed and I advise that a new one is bought and fitted.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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ChimpOnGas said:
No brainer, the standard flywheel is a millstone.

My original cast iron 4.0 litre flywheel weighed in at a mahoosive 28lbs, I had it machined down to 23lbs pretty quickly which made a massive difference.

A few years later I'd sold that lightened cast flywheel and replaced it with an 18lb steel one from TTS, better still......... and still no downsides, drivability remained perfect but the engine spins up so much faster which changes the character of the car and makes the Old Rover V8 feel much more like a sports car engine.

If I enjoyed regular track days I'd probably take it down to 15lbs, if I was off-roading or pulling a horse box in my TVR the original 28lbs millstone would be perfect.... but if like me you want the engine to gather revs far better yet remain a pussy cat on the road... then 18lbs is the sweet spot.
Your still pulling the same car.
I have so much engine braking already which tells me a lot.
Engine builder said it would make very little difference and my drag time which is actual proof rather than here say says it all. I’m not even very powerful compared to the rest. On a standard engine a waste of money and that’s the engine builder speaking.
He could be wrong of course wink
I think if you want one it can’t do any harm as long as no imbalance is created.
Some people laugh at just bolting one on as risky.
I’d talk with a few engine builders who know, just make sure it’s not someone who can sell you one!

Sardonicus

19,311 posts

243 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Classic Chim said:
Your still pulling the same car.
I have so much engine braking already which tells me a lot.
Engine builder said it would make very little difference and my drag time which is actual proof rather than here say says it all. I’m not even very powerful compared to the rest. On a standard engine a waste of money and that’s the engine builder speaking.
He could be wrong of course wink
I think if you want one it can’t do any harm as long as no imbalance is created.
Some people laugh at just bolting one on as risky.
I’d talk with a few engine builders who know, just make sure it’s not someone who can sell you one!
Trouble is Alun the standard FW was for the SD1 / P6 Rover and you can appreciate these cars are heavier than our Tivs, but will admit a lightened FW is not to everyones taste scratchchin it can make low speed manners appear glitchie or On/Off we are only talking relatively extreme lightness not 19/20 pound for example thats a good weight/mod IMO, my brother was over the moon with his John Eales 19 pound fly the car is otherwise stock apart from Megasquirt etc wink no downsides as far as he is concerned just brought the motor to life idea




Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 11th January 17:20

trev4

747 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Very interested in the lightend flywheel debate, I guess the benefits would be more pronounced on the 4lt engine with less hp.

Mr Plow

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1,193 posts

250 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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phazed said:
If you are talking about the spigot bush then these can be renewed and I advise that a new one is bought and fitted.
Hi Phazed, no not the spigot bush. See the photo below. I have an alignment dowel on the crank for the flywheel.