Replacement diff
Replacement diff
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CanoeSniffer

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945 posts

109 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Had a bit of diff shunt for a while now, an inspection reveals a pinion seal leak so it's probably time to go.

'93 4 litre pre-serp, lt77 'box, any idea what model diff I'm after and availability?

GR_TVR

782 posts

106 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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I assume you'll have the GKN diff rather than the later BTR - my 96 has the GKN so unless yours has been replaced before...!

Can't really comment on availability, might be worth looking into a rebuild rather than replacement? Likely to be a fair bit cheaper, although I'll let others with more knowledge on the matter comment!

The main question is, are you going to let me ruin the existing or the new one when I drive it? biggrin

CanoeSniffer

Original Poster:

945 posts

109 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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GR_TVR said:
I assume you'll have the GKN diff rather than the later BTR - my 96 has the GKN so unless yours has been replaced before...!

Can't really comment on availability, might be worth looking into a rebuild rather than replacement? Likely to be a fair bit cheaper, although I'll let others with more knowledge on the matter comment!

The main question is, are you going to let me ruin the existing or the new one when I drive it? biggrin
Can't recall seeing anything stamped on it but my observational skills are pretty awful! Rebuild is probably a good idea, any idea if 500s used the same diff Gareth? Planning ahead for more power so hopefully it's rated for extra beef smile

You're definitely getting the old diff, old tyres, I'm looking for a set of steel wheels to put on too.. Anything of any value is getting taken off before I let you loose wink

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

166 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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it will be the gkn there are less and less around there is one on the flee at the moment plus you could go btr but mods are required.


john

CanoeSniffer

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945 posts

109 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Engineer1949 said:
it will be the gkn there are less and less around there is one on the flee at the moment plus you could go btr but mods are required.


john
Thank you for the response John. Any idea on the sturdiness of the GKN and if it will withstand more power?

N7GTX

8,258 posts

165 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
Engineer1949 said:
it will be the gkn there are less and less around there is one on the flee at the moment plus you could go btr but mods are required.


john
Thank you for the response John. Any idea on the sturdiness of the GKN and if it will withstand more power?
Dom at Powers told me to stick with the GKN when I upped the power as he said it would be strong enough. Its coping with 355bhp and 481ft/lbs. I had asked him if it would be better to get the later BTR one.
Al (ClassicChim) has recently done his diff so he should be able to help.

shout Al?

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

166 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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they will stand considerably more bhp with no problems if your doing a derek and slamming up santa pod regularly maybe not but normal road and track day use perfectly fine, and the one on the flee has been resealed recently.


john

QBee

22,066 posts

166 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Grantura Engineering will rebuild it for you - ask them for a quote, you will of course be without the car for the time it takes.
Surprised you relate shunting to the diff......probably just my lack of knowledge.

CanoeSniffer

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945 posts

109 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Good to hear that it’s a strong old thing, I’ll get a quote on a rebuild thank you! If I end up with anything close to 355hp/481lbft once I’ve had my wicked way then I’ll be delighted! Don’t know about the drag strips (may feel differently if I get hold of a few more horses), I do fairly regular track days but I assume that’s not quite so hard on the transmission.

I may be wrong about it being the diff Anthony, I’m on a carb so not exactly sophisticated fuelling- but shunting is often accompanied with a mechanical clunk from the rear of the car so I drew the conclusion that it was the diff. If I get it changed/refurbed and the car still shunts.. meh. WOT is what I’m more interested in smile

Thanks all for your help thumbup

Edited by CanoeSniffer on Monday 4th June 22:30

Smokey Boyer

509 posts

153 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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I had a brand new BTR diff fitted by Central TVR recently, with new bushes, speed sender and got a 2 year warranty. It was about £1800 all in and the work was completed in a day or two.

Worth every penny in my opinion.

I even sold the GKN diff that came out of the car as spares or repairs.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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^^^^^ what he says wink

I’ve spent a lot of money having engines/clutches/ ign- fuelling system replaced, even 4 new drive shaft CV’s
Still had a slight sniff of shunt but now only 1400 revs and barely noticeable but still needed to smooth things out with the clutch!
Replaced the diff as it was noisy and by eck, no shunt at all.
Gesrbox lever used to get very warm, now stays cold!!! Increadable difference. Best bag of sand I’ve spent on the car. £1800 for a new one with bushes fitted that’s not bad as it’s a big old job thumbup
My party trick is to role along below 800 revs in second and just pull away without any clutch operation.
My left ft used to get very hot and sore now I only use it to change gear wink
Worth every penny and within minutes of driving mine I was convinced. Awesome.

QBee

22,066 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
Good to hear that it’s a strong old thing, I’ll get a quote on a rebuild thank you! If I end up with anything close to 355hp/481lbft once I’ve had my wicked way then I’ll be delighted! Don’t know about the drag strips (may feel differently if I get hold of a few more horses), I do fairly regular track days but I assume that’s not quite so hard on the transmission.

I may be wrong about it being the diff Anthony, I’m on a carb so not exactly sophisticated fuelling- but shunting is often accompanied with a mechanical clunk from the rear of the car so I drew the conclusion that it was the diff. If I get it changed/refurbed and the car still shunts.. meh. WOT is what I’m more interested in smile

Thanks all for your help thumbup

Edited by CanoeSniffer on Monday 4th June 22:30
On my car I had a clunk from the rear....and changed the CV joints to get rid of it.
A worn mounting bush could also be a source of the clunk
I would seriously recommend taking the car to a TVR expert to diagnose the source of the clunk before you open your wallet for what could be the wrong fix

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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If you suspect Dif bushes then use a big lever to try and move it, any movement will be magnified when driving.
I started with checking everything else first. Over time I concluded prop uj’s, drive shafts and even gearbox mounts were all good. The looseness was inside the Dif.

If it’s leaking it has to come out anyway really.

My personal opinion is your old diff will have wear in the parts they don’t replace so a new one with new gears etc seemed a no brainier.

Siliconekid has gone from GKN to BTR maybe he can help you with a list of parts!
I think it’s just brackets rather than anything difficult.

CanoeSniffer

Original Poster:

945 posts

109 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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I'll get a quote on the rebuild vs Centrals BTR swap.

I'm not too bothered about the shunting, it's not severe and easy to drive around. I'll have a poke with a big lever and see if there's any free play anywhere, but it's not the shunt I'm chasing really- just reckon I ought to get the diff sorted before it dumps all its fluid and explodes hehe

QBee

22,066 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
I'll get a quote on the rebuild vs Centrals BTR swap.

I'm not too bothered about the shunting, it's not severe and easy to drive around. I'll have a poke with a big lever and see if there's any free play anywhere, but it's not the shunt I'm chasing really- just reckon I ought to get the diff sorted before it dumps all its fluid and explodes hehe
Wise

GR_TVR

782 posts

106 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
You're definitely getting the old diff, old tyres, I'm looking for a set of steel wheels to put on too.. Anything of any value is getting taken off before I let you loose wink
Wiser. hehe

indigochim

2,067 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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CanoeSniffer said:
I may be wrong about it being the diff Anthony, I’m on a carb so not exactly sophisticated fuelling- but shunting is often accompanied with a mechanical clunk from the rear of the car so I drew the conclusion that it was the diff. If I get it changed/refurbed and the car still shunts.. meh. WOT is what I’m more interested in smile
I thought I had issues with my diff but it turned out to be wheel bearing and a CV joint. New Diff oil didn't go amiss either.