Garage find Chim to track day
Garage find Chim to track day
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Prizam

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2,447 posts

163 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Well, sort of... not really.

The car has been sat in the garage since November, I haven't had a chance to get it out. What prep work do you recommend for its first track day? it already has uprated breaks and had all fluids changed a few years ago (< 500 miles ago).

I'm going to the no noise limits track day at Rockingham. and have the following planned.


- Cut the exhaust off at the "Y" piece (No noise limits... right?)
- Oil change with filter
- Coolant flush and change
- Check tyre pressures

Might wash the dust off it. And if I can, take it to work for a couple of shakedown runs.

What tools should I take?

blaze_away

1,633 posts

235 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Flush your brake fluid and clutch fluid. Miles is itrelevant its time that causes water be absorbed in the fluid. Track day could boil it especially the brakes.

Edited by blaze_away on Monday 25th June 17:10

TV8

3,413 posts

197 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Prizam said:
I'm going to the no noise limits track day at Rockingham. and have the following planned.


- Cut the exhaust off at the "Y" piece (No noise limits... right?)
Your car etc but that will be seriously noisy and possibly not in the spirit of what the organisers had in mind!

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

166 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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words fail me almost


john

Prizam

Original Poster:

2,447 posts

163 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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TV8 said:
Prizam said:
I'm going to the no noise limits track day at Rockingham. and have the following planned.


- Cut the exhaust off at the "Y" piece (No noise limits... right?)
Your car etc but that will be seriously noisy and possibly not in the spirit of what the organisers had in mind!
I joke, I Kidd... its funny. The car is plenty loud enough as it is.

Breaks... They are fine, all new including fluid a couple of years ago.

Clutch fluid... probably a good idea. Never ventured under the glued in little bump.

mk1fan

10,830 posts

247 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Given how cheap a complete fluid change is then I would suggest doing all of them. Oil, brakes, clutch and coolant.

How old are the tyres? Anything over 4 years and they'll be rubbish on the track.

Give your air filter a clean.

How old are the HT leads, dizzy cap and rotor arm?

Off to Snetterton tomorrow for a TD.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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If the cars been stood as others have said brake fluid wants a quick flush through as that will be what cause of most brake fade/ failure.
This is number one problem for occasional trackday users and recently one Tvr had its rear end removed by another Tvr too close that had apparent ( complete brake failure)
Brakes don’t just fail or we’d all be in trouble.
Nearly every person who has mentioned this is likely to have experienced it especially with road based brakes as they are not capable of more than a few good stops before fading and getting the long pedal syndrome.


Sardonicus

19,295 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Brake-fluid should be renewed every 2 years regardless if its used or stored anyways

jesfirth

1,743 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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what everyone has said. brake fluid is hydroscopic and slowly absorbs moisture over time which lowers the boiling point.

change the brake fluid and also make sure the pads have plenty of life left.

on my first track day back in the dark ages my brake fluid boiled with the resulting in complete brake failure...I only just missed the chimera in front of me.

on the day always do a gentle cool down lap or two at the end of the session and never put the hand brake on in the paddock.

markcoopers

724 posts

215 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Tools wise, take a sensible set of fuses, relays and tie wraps. Sockets/spanners to fit most common sizes and one for wheels. Screwdrivers. Duck tape. Pliers. Hammer if you are like me....COs I like them.

Prep wise I would add check seatbelt and seat mounts, and gear stick mounts/linkage. It is funny how physical you become once on track and will exert more on the control surfaces. I would also check over the coolant system as this will take a beating in the heat and on track, fans working, flushed, full and no leaks.

I would also add make sure you are up to it. Jokes aside, it is hot and you will need fluids.


ESDavey

713 posts

241 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Check your tyre pressures and amount of tread. On a hot day you can really trash a tyre so make sure you leave enough to get home !

QBee

22,063 posts

166 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Put in dot 4 High temperature brake fluid. Rockingham has loads of bends, including a couple of hard braking corners. This is what happens if you boil your brakes.....

Prizam

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2,447 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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QBee said:
Put in dot 4 High temperature brake fluid. Rockingham has loads of bends, including a couple of hard braking corners. This is what happens if you boil your brakes.....
Thanks, a little bit of poo came out just looking at that pic. I'm treating Rockingham like a fast road day and not a track/race day. ( i do have a race licence, so hopefully not completely useless).

At the end of the day, I want to cruise home and wash the flies off.

Oil - Done. Comma 5w50. Was fine

Filter- Done, last changed with oil in 2015 (About 2k ago). Was fine

Coolant - Done, last changed in 2015. Comma blue stuff, extra cool. something something...

Clutch fluid - So glad someone mentioned this. Must have been the original fluid. Black, bits in it... then white and milky. now changed and the clutch is much better! lighter and more progressive. So, a big thanks to whoever mentioned this one!

Brakes - New fluid, last changed 2 years ago and about 500 miles ago. It was fine.


Notes - Made a little coolant re-fill a ma jig. Makes the process a bit easier. The new oil must be a bit thinner as pressure reads slightly lower. Between 50psi idle and 60psi on a run. the shakedown testing I did took it to over 10,000 miles!




mk1fan

10,830 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Good progress.

How old are the tyres?

Prizam

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2,447 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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mk1fan said:
Good progress.

How old are the tyres?
Rears are a year old.

Fronts are probably about 10 years old... they do have some cracking starting. They feel fine on the road and didn't blow out during testing. So reluctant to replace if I can avoid it.

What pressures should I run for tack?

Jhonno

6,430 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Prizam said:
Fronts are probably about 10 years old... they do have some cracking starting. They feel fine on the road and didn't blow out during testing. So reluctant to replace if I can avoid it.
Replace them straight away! They are shot.

Edited by Jhonno on Tuesday 3rd July 12:32

N7GTX

8,257 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Jhonno said:
[quote=Prizam
Fronts are probably about 10 years old... they do have some cracking starting. They feel fine on the road and didn't blow out during testing. So reluctant to replace if I can avoid it.
Replace them straight away! They are shot.
Taken from a Google search:

There is no definitive tyre age limit as to when you should replace your tyres but if your tyres are older than 5 years old, you should keep a close eye on their condition and consider replacing them. Tyre ageing is commonly identified by small cracks, known as crazing, which appear in the tyre sidewall.

Chim450

1,452 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Jhonno said:
Replace them straight away! They are shot.
^^^^^^^^

What he said!

Sardonicus

19,295 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Just curious how did you test the brake fluid quality? Please don't say it looked OK if it's 2 years old it's done,. Of course you could leave it but seeing as new fluid prolongs seal life and you don't want the brake master cylinder leaking fluid into the brake servo chamber, ill presume you know these are now a kings ransom ? Mileage on brake fluid is irrelevant

mk1fan

10,830 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Are you planning on going to Donnigton?

Got the reg of the car so I can stay off the track. biglaugh