Expensive spring failure.
Expensive spring failure.
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grand-one

Original Poster:

178 posts

277 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Doing some winter jobs on the Chimaera in the garage today. Opened the boot lid then as I closed it and pushed the boot closed, I heard a sharp metallic ping from under the car.

The ping noise came from a snapped spring. Now the thing is these are 2 year old Nitrons with the blue springs. Under 3000 miles of road use with no track use. No rust on the springs, and powder coating like new. Spring has snapped right through, about 2 inches from the top. Not used the car for a couple of months with Scottish weather and work getting in the way, so glad I wasn’t driving it!

Anyone else had a spring fail in this way?

phazed

22,434 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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I have never heard of a spring failing on one of our cars.

There seem to be a lot of spring failures on modern cars, especially the cheap hatchbacks.
The springs on these cars are especially of a small gauge unlike the springs on our cars.

I am sure Nitron will replace these as they must have a defect.

By comparison , I have Eibach Springs fitted to my suspension units. I have had these about 11–12 years and they must have done at least 50 track days and sprints. Still as good as new.

grand-one

Original Poster:

178 posts

277 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Thank you Phazed, I did find it strange it just let go. Looks like a weak spot on the spring for it to snap like that, still in very good condition otherwise.

It’s like the spring has a fracture as it’s split diagonally leaving a neat grey split in the metal?!

SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

253 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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I now have Faulkner springs ,you can have them powder coated in several colours .
Good price good quality and popular for motorsports.

mikial

1,913 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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I fitted Nitrons to my Griff when I was a U.K. resident. I was impressed with the build quality and attention to detail plus they were a major improvement to the cars ride and roadholding.
Never experienced a problem with them, I sold the Griff in 2012 and as far as I know no problems thus far.
I imported the Nitron as illustrated for the Ninja 650 ( that's what it's called here ) and clearly it's still in good order with no signs of corrosion or wear after 4 years. That's a recent picture taken last month.
I'd say you were extremely unlucky to experience a snapped spring in the way described.

Dominic TVRetto

1,405 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Thank God it happened then and not while driving. eek

QBee

22,048 posts

166 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I had a front spring snap on my 2006 Saab - no real noticeable effect other then a metallic double clunk when going over bumps/potholes in the road.
I twigged what had happened from the noise it made on compression/decompression.

Ditto on my old Merc ML - again, it drove fine., but that was a rear spring and I only found out then the MOT tester showed me.

So it might not be as bad as you think, and the OP may well have driven the car with it broken and not realised.

Skyedriver

22,040 posts

304 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I think 4 broken springs on my wifes SX4. Always the front.
Only find out when there's a bit of spring on the ground or I note one side lower than the other.

Sardonicus

19,295 posts

243 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Spring steel is not what it once was , lucky they don't have the same attitude towards valve springs or we would really would be in the st, poor roads and traffic calming are not the main culprit even though they seldom help

Edited by Sardonicus on Monday 24th December 22:16

LLantrisant

1,003 posts

181 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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sure, that failure is strange , also annoying.....but whats the value of this spring? a cheap one 25 quid...a more expnsive one 50quid.....the time you post here the spring would have been already changed....job done, car roaworthy again.....
debating about the real reason of the failure? the result might be only estimations.

once you have replaced the spring, send the broken one to the supplier /manufacturer and see what they reply. if you are lucky you may also get a refund

Edited by LLantrisant on Tuesday 25th December 09:40

Brithunter

610 posts

110 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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Even some not so modern cars are prone to spring failure and one of those is the Rover 75 Diesel. They break front springs but the really odd thing is it usually happens when stationary or just starting off which is lucky because they often then tear through the inside of the front tyre. The 75 has BMW E47 suspension as it happens.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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I helped a mate out working in his garage for quite awhile and so many modern and not so modern cars seem to snap springs, it was quite common it seemed to me.
He also had a fancy Porsche 993 maybe, can’t remember and that snapped both rear springs and cost a fortune to repair compared to TVR 40 quid babies hehe

phazed

22,434 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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£40! they saw you coming!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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phazed said:
£40! they saw you coming!
I don’t have your clout biggrin
That’s for all four wink

Sardonicus

19,295 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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Brithunter said:
Even some not so modern cars are prone to spring failure and one of those is the Rover 75 Diesel. They break front springs but the really odd thing is it usually happens when stationary or just starting off which is lucky because they often then tear through the inside of the front tyre. The 75 has BMW E47 suspension as it happens.
Whats an E47? biggrin

TwinKam

3,452 posts

117 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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Sardonicus said:
Brithunter said:
Even some not so modern cars are prone to spring failure and one of those is the Rover 75 Diesel. They break front springs but the really odd thing is it usually happens when stationary or just starting off which is lucky because they often then tear through the inside of the front tyre. The 75 has BMW E47 suspension as it happens.
Whats an E47? biggrin
E47 is a blinged up E46, common in sarf Lahnden, slammed, blacked windows, chrome wheel arch spats, that kinda fing, oh and lots of hidey-holes winkwinkbiglaugh

Sardonicus

19,295 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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TwinKam said:
E47 is a blinged up E46, common in sarf Lahnden, slammed, blacked windows, chrome wheel arch spats, that kinda fing, oh and lots of hidey-holes winkwinkbiglaugh
bow That'll do biggrin you missed severe camber laugh Oh sorry .... I meant stanced scratchchin

QBee

22,048 posts

166 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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Sardonicus said:
TwinKam said:
E47 is a blinged up E46, common in sarf Lahnden, slammed, blacked windows, chrome wheel arch spats, that kinda fing, oh and lots of hidey-holes winkwinkbiglaugh
bow That'll do biggrin you missed severe camber laugh Oh sorry .... I meant stanced scratchchin
So dragging its arse on the ground, bit like its low-trousered owner.. ?