Bonnet & Radiator Grill
Bonnet & Radiator Grill
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razorman

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440 posts

259 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Finally got round to doing this, but not sure about it, what does everyone think?
Remember it was thought about as I had a stone go through the headlamp 2 weeks after I bought the car and wanted to protect the radiator. The numberplate will cover most of the bottom opening.
M@H thought about your method, but realised that you need to get into this area for maintenance, so made this so that it can be removed, just got to work out how to fix it if I keep it.




Also while I was in there found these 2 connections sticking out the loom. Anyone any idea what they could be four? unfortunately shows up all the stone chips as well


tiger

769 posts

263 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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The one on the right looks like alarm siren connector.

Test it by leaving a door open a setting the alarm if it don't beep could well be the siren.

No idea what the other is

steve1c

341 posts

261 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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The other one is a stone chip detector..think yours is broken

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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It needs some kind of a surround, but it looks great.

Hopefully its not a metal that could rust?

jem

548 posts

269 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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i was going to do it, but have mixed feelings so haven't quite done it yet.

got to be a good thing as a small mammal deflector

I guess it's going to suit more car colours than others - and I'm unsure about silver and red.

dunno

J

tvron

276 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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I tried the earlier method of sticking grill in with mastic but just could not get whole grill to stick vdespite spending approx 6 hrs on job in total. Previous posting quoted 30 mins for whole job but I can only think he had rad removed at time. I would be interested in how you made frame and how you fixed grill in as I really think grill essential

Ron

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Before going to too much expense/time on installing the grill and fabricating a surround I'd be inclined to jury rig it where it is and drive it through a range of conditions low speed, high speed, traffic on a hot day etc to see what effect that mesh has on airflow through the radiator. It think it could be significant.

mick_coupe

332 posts

275 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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I like the idea...but fancy it in black! Maybe it woudn't notice that much

Mick

MajorClanger

749 posts

299 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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razorman said:
Also while I was in there found these 2 connections sticking out the loom. Anyone any idea what they could be four [sic]?
I found some 'spare' connectors at the front of the car and asked the dealer. Their reply (apart from 'they all have them like that sir'!) was that TVR use a 'standard', commercial wiring loom. End result is that there are a few wires/connectors spare which are normally tucked away out of sight. If alarm siren and temperature warning light are working OK then could be spare... for the neon light body kits!!!

MC

razorman

Original Poster:

440 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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tvron said:
I tried the earlier method of sticking grill in with mastic but just could not get whole grill to stick vdespite spending approx 6 hrs on job in total. Previous posting quoted 30 mins for whole job but I can only think he had rad removed at time. I would be interested in how you made frame and how you fixed grill in as I really think grill essential

Ron


As I said earlier, I thought it best not to mastic the grill in as you need to get in there for maintenance...air filter etc. So I made a template out of thick cardboard and then used it to cut a piece of the mesh (slightly smaller)to fit in the hole. This obviously left sharp edges, so I bought some clear silicon tubing, split it and fed the edges of the mesh in. So I now have a shaped grill with the edges protected so that it won't scratch the bodywork. So far to stop it moving backwards I have used some clear self adhesive door protectors. Just got to work out how to stop it coming forward although it is quite a tight fit.

The beauty is for maintenance or if I don't like it it takes seconds to remove.

>> Edited by razorman on Tuesday 17th May 12:40

razorman

Original Poster:

440 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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MajorClanger said:

Their reply (apart from 'they all have them like that sir'!) was that TVR use a 'standard', commercial wiring loom. MC


I know very little about cars, but I had read in "the bible" that TVR made their own wiring looms and that's why I thought that they should be connected to something?

chimburt

751 posts

288 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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nice.
better in black, IMO, possibly only because my car is the same colour but is older, and has the black one-piece grill.

steve1c

341 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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I think it looks the biz. Just wondering what it would look like if both sections were done?? Don't know why, but it reminds me of something to do with Aston Martin. P'raps it's one of their cars. Or it could be my medication of course. Better take some more. Hic.

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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tvron said:
I tried the earlier method of sticking grill in with mastic but just could not get whole grill to stick vdespite spending approx 6 hrs on job in total. Previous posting quoted 30 mins for whole job but I can only think he had rad removed at time.


Sorry you had problems but the rad etc was all in place and it really was a quick job:

Remove horn, trim mesh to about 1" bigger than the aperture, slide mesh into nosecone (sideways, right corner in first, then left).. leave mesh in bottom of nosecone whilst adding a bead of silicone onto the inside edge of the aperture, pull mesh up against the silicone with some wire (and attach wire to some pencils or similar across the front of the aperture to hold it in place).. then replace the horn, leave overnight to cure.

As it was all quite quick and easy I thought I'd just re-do it at service intervals to clean the air filter, that way I'll also ensure that its not coming loose and I'm not noticing it.

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Hi razorman, glad to read you've got it sorted out

..the only bit of caution I'd throw in regarding your installation is that if the mesh is up against the back edge of the aperture, it sits at quite an angle of some 30-35 degrees:



..as opposed to yours which is straight upright:



The thing with the mesh though is that it is fairly transparent (i.e. low wind resistance) when set at an angle as in my installation, however with the mesh vertical you have a lot more wind resistance (hence the front looks more "shiny" so you'll be restricting the airflow to the rad a bit.

Other than that, good effort



>> Edited by M@H on Wednesday 18th May 12:10

razorman

Original Poster:

440 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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M@H said:
Other than that, good effort



Thanks for that. I will sort out how to finaly fix it and go for a good run (any excuse) and see how it goes. If it is a problem as I said only seconds to remove so no major harm, could even remove it while i'm out if necessary.

MajorClanger

749 posts

299 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Interesting comparison of just how much 'blockage' there is with different mesh sizes and configurations here.

Anything from 27% to 64% open area (73% - 36% blockage)

MC

trinitycall

655 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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While I hate chavy and bling cars...

Aesthetically (spelling?) speaking...i'm loving the silver mesh. it really sets the car off. I think it mixes perfectly a subtle design statement with a bold opening statement.

Regards,

N

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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I'd agree with you there.. my primary goal was with the bonnet vents to stop the leaves falling in, then the radiator protection, and I must say that having had them on the car for a while, its almost like they "should" be there.. otherwise you've just got the holes which look a bit bare.



Anyone at Le Mans should find my car in the Houx Campsite if you want a closer look

razorman

Original Poster:

440 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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MajorClanger said:
Interesting comparison of just how much 'blockage' there is with different mesh sizes and configurations here.

Anything from 27% to 64% open area (73% - 36% blockage)

MC


Very interesting, it's difficult to say without seeing actual samples, but I would imaging that the one I used was nearest the one that allowed 67% through.
Out of interest I know the earlier Chims had the grill, which must have stopped as much airflow as my proposal if not more. Does anyone know if the grill was ommited because of an overheating problem or just because it was difficult to fit one with the change in design of the front?