Tyres for SP12 size wheels
Tyres for SP12 size wheels
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Spiike

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105 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Hi everyone,

As the title suggests, I'm looking at which tyres to get for the new wheels I am soon to order.

The wheels specs are very similar to the SP12, see below:

Fronts: 4x108, 17 inch, ET25, 7J
Rears: 4x108, 18 inch, ET35, 8J

I believe these to be almost identical to SP12s, the only difference being ET33 for the rears.

As for tyres, I had been looking at Michelin Pilot Sport 4s, again see below:

Fronts: 215/40 R17 Y
Rears: 245/35 R18 Y

If anyone can confirm all these specs are pretty accurate and should fit my car (1998 Chim 400) I would greatly appreciate it before spending a good bit of cash!

Thanks in advance!

Edited by Spiike on Wednesday 23 October 16:46

SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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What wheels are you gone for ?

Spiike

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105 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I quite like the original wheels and I'm not a huge fan of the SP12s, so I'm going for Japan Racing JR3 as they were the closest similar style wheel I could find to the originals in the larger size. I'll be ordering them in Bronze before having them resprayed silver and baked, as the sizes we need aren't made in silver.


SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Can you only get them in multi fit ?

Spiike

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105 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Unfortunately the fronts only come in multi fit, the rears are drilled to suit.

SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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What about 16 and 17" ?

That's my favourite combination .


Spiike

Original Poster:

105 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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I do like the bigger look, not to the extremes of course but I do like the look of the 17/18 mix on the car. However even at that, the 16/17 would still be multi fit and need sprayed.

Spiike

Original Poster:

105 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2019
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Just trying to confirm if these sizes would fit? From all I can see using the online tools it would be correct?

QBee

22,023 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Hi Spike

I have SP12s and have run 215/45 17 on the front and 235/40 18 on the rear.
These come out at 624mm front and 645mm rear diameter, which is bigger than standard, fit fine, don't rub, and look fine.

The Michelin Pilots you list would probably be branded Heineken if Heineken made tyres - sort of thing high powered Porsches are shod with for the Ring. Great tyre, wish i could afford them.

I have previously had issues with track tyres wider than 235 on the rear rubbing on the wheel arches, as did a friend when he borrowed them, but you may well not, as many people run 245 road tyres on Chimaeras, and road tyres have more rounded shoulders than track tyres........but if you do, you can always thin down the wheel arch insides a tad.

I am not a fan of 35 ratio tyres on these cars because i feel it may detract from the ride quality, but that is only my feeling, not based on any fact.

In terms or diameter and hence ride height, the sizes you have selected are very very close, and as close as you are going to get, to the standard Chimaera sizes, at 603mm and 628.5mm diameter.

Good luck, and please post photos when they are fitted



Monsterlime

1,402 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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What is wrong/bad about multi fit?

Classic Chim

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170 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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QBee said:
Hi Spike

I have SP12s and have run 215/45 17 on the front and 235/40 18 on the rear.
These come out at 624mm front and 645mm rear diameter, which is bigger than standard, fit fine, don't rub, and look fine.

The Michelin Pilots you list would probably be branded Heineken if Heineken made tyres - sort of thing high powered Porsches are shod with for the Ring. Great tyre, wish i could afford them.

I have previously had issues with track tyres wider than 235 on the rear rubbing on the wheel arches, as did a friend when he borrowed them, but you may well not, as many people run 245 road tyres on Chimaeras, and road tyres have more rounded shoulders than track tyres........but if you do, you can always thin down the wheel arch insides a tad.

I am not a fan of 35 ratio tyres on these cars because i feel it may detract from the ride quality, but that is only my feeling, not based on any fact.

In terms or diameter and hence ride height, the sizes you have selected are very very close, and as close as you are going to get, to the standard Chimaera sizes, at 603mm and 628.5mm diameter.

Good luck, and please post photos when they are fitted
And a 235/45/17 is almost exactly the same size dia as 235/40/18

I use the 235/45/17 on my rears and they fill the arch more so to speak. I agree the extra profile height really helps for handling on bumpy surfaces. You are increasing gearing very slightly which is no bad thing.

I’m using Azev wheels which retain a Tvr look but slightly more angular which I quiet like.

Rears with said sized tyre using Rainsport cheapies smile ace tyre though for all conditions wink



Photo call biggrin




Spiike

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105 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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QBee said:
The Michelin Pilots you list would probably be branded Heineken if Heineken made tyres - sort of thing high powered Porsches are shod with for the Ring. Great tyre, wish i could afford them.
Thanks for the replies everyone, lots of helpful info!

QBee, in those sizes they are currently available for £420 delivered, which all in all isn't too bad in my eyes. The other option would have been Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 5's, worked out about £30 less so thought i'd stick with the Michelin

QBee

22,023 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Monsterlime said:
What is wrong/bad about multi fit?
Nothing

QBee

22,023 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Spiike said:
QBee said:
The Michelin Pilots you list would probably be branded Heineken if Heineken made tyres - sort of thing high powered Porsches are shod with for the Ring. Great tyre, wish i could afford them.
Thanks for the replies everyone, lots of helpful info!

QBee, in those sizes they are currently available for £420 delivered, which all in all isn't too bad in my eyes. The other option would have been Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 5's, worked out about £30 less so thought i'd stick with the Michelin
Note made, because if I am remembering the exact Michelin Pilot Sport Cups correctly, they get absolutely rave handling reviews, even on track days.

Spiike

Original Poster:

105 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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QBee said:
Note made, because if I am remembering the exact Michelin Pilot Sport Cups correctly, they get absolutely rave handling reviews, even on track days.
You would be correct, the Pilot Sport 4's are more a road use tyre, but generally one of the very best available, the pilot sport cup tyres would be more of a road/track tyre, which may account for the extra cost. I don't track my car so the normal Pilot Sport 4's are perfect for me smile

QBee

22,023 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Spiike said:
QBee said:
Note made, because if I am remembering the exact Michelin Pilot Sport Cups correctly, they get absolutely rave handling reviews, even on track days.
You would be correct, the Pilot Sport 4's are more a road use tyre, but generally one of the very best available, the pilot sport cup tyres would be more of a road/track tyre, which may account for the extra cost. I don't track my car so the normal Pilot Sport 4's are perfect for me smile


17 inch wheels all round, slicks in this case, 215/45/17, ex Clio Cup tyres.

Spiike

Original Poster:

105 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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It does look well with the 17s all round, but the tyres are now ordered. so I'll stick with what I've got! Thanks again for all the help guys, I will try and make sure to get pics up when sorted!

SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

252 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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235 /45/17 Rears

205/50/16 fronts i
Rain sports.
Both of the above sizes look balanced and fil the arches .


Spiike

Original Poster:

105 posts

173 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Back again with another question, went to order my wheels and have been informed they have stopped making the 18s in ET35, but they do have them in ET30, would this still be suitable? If I'm correct this would be closer to the outer arches?

Spiike

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105 posts

173 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Going by "Will they fit?" this is the result I got back over the standard wheels and tyres.

Compared to your existing wheel, this new wheel will have an inner rim which is 3.3mm closer to the suspension strut. The outer rim will poke out 9.3mm more than before.

Problem or not?