Early Chimaera on ebay.......[barn find]
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1993 Chim on ebay. It seems a little sad when you see these cars in this condition.
Could be a good buy for someone, but it at what price ? May seem cheap starting at 4.5k but looking at the pics, that car needs some serious work.
Ad describes the chassis as looking good.........
........i've seen a few and that does not look good.
Evidence of mice looking at the interior pics, so god knows what damage they may have done. Here you go, make your own mind up.
In the best TVR colour i might add..............
.....not that i'm biased in any way.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-chimaera-1993-4-lit...
Could be a good buy for someone, but it at what price ? May seem cheap starting at 4.5k but looking at the pics, that car needs some serious work.
Ad describes the chassis as looking good.........
........i've seen a few and that does not look good.Evidence of mice looking at the interior pics, so god knows what damage they may have done. Here you go, make your own mind up.
In the best TVR colour i might add..............
.....not that i'm biased in any way.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-chimaera-1993-4-lit...
I agree it is firstly a shame to see but also the numbers won't work. The cost to get to the car to a decent place will be more than it will be worth at the end so a futile excercise.
I know my Chimaera 500 was in a slightly better starting point but not much. It has had a really detailed full refurbishment at immense cost but I suspect only worth the same as the cost of the refurb. Of course it is great for all if someone turns cars like this around.
I know my Chimaera 500 was in a slightly better starting point but not much. It has had a really detailed full refurbishment at immense cost but I suspect only worth the same as the cost of the refurb. Of course it is great for all if someone turns cars like this around.
Yes I had seen that one on eBay (even though there seems a be a glut of fake car ads on there again so frustrating why eBay can’t stop this )
First thoughts were , ad says not touched in 9 years battery taken off years ago , not attempted to start it etc etc so why then.......... is there fresh set of HT leads on it ? And why has it had a recent fresh silver spray job on the chassis rails where they have simply sprayed over the lines and even cable ties ? Would have been much better off leaving it alone and selling as it was to me looks like they have tried to get it going and failed and sprayed over a rusty chassis
First thoughts were , ad says not touched in 9 years battery taken off years ago , not attempted to start it etc etc so why then.......... is there fresh set of HT leads on it ? And why has it had a recent fresh silver spray job on the chassis rails where they have simply sprayed over the lines and even cable ties ? Would have been much better off leaving it alone and selling as it was to me looks like they have tried to get it going and failed and sprayed over a rusty chassis
That car could easily swallow up £10k - £15k to get it right, so even if you bought it for £4k you'd be way better off buying this one for £13k that's had a full chassis restoration and lots of other work.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
To be honest £13k for a Chimaera with a full chassis restoration is too cheap, the seller talks about having £10k of bills and I don't doubt it for a minute.
By contrast I bought mine for £8k at 30,000 miles ten years ago, I bought it to use and enjoy not to make money on, I've had lots of use and fun out of the car in those 10 years and in that time on average I've spent £1,000 a year on maintenance and upgrades so the car stands me at £18k.
To get the next 20 years out of it its about to get a body off chassis restoration, including this and over the next 10 years I expect to own the car my average spend will likely remain at £1,000 a year so by the time I sell lets say my 20 year TVR experience will have cost me the best part of £30k including buying the car.
But at year 20 when I sell I would have saved £9,000 on fuel bills by running the car on LPG and hopefully the car will be worth at least £16k in 2030 meaning I effectively get £25k back including those fuel savings, that leaves just £5k spent over 20 years of TVR ownership making it a very cheap hobby/classic car to own over that period.
The car being discussed here is a restoration project and unless the it could be purchased for £1,000 ish it looks to me like it'll prove beyond economic restoration, for sure you'd end up spending more than its worth, I doubt it would make much more than £2,500 if the seller put it in a proper no reserve auction and even that's too much money.
Sad but true
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
To be honest £13k for a Chimaera with a full chassis restoration is too cheap, the seller talks about having £10k of bills and I don't doubt it for a minute.
By contrast I bought mine for £8k at 30,000 miles ten years ago, I bought it to use and enjoy not to make money on, I've had lots of use and fun out of the car in those 10 years and in that time on average I've spent £1,000 a year on maintenance and upgrades so the car stands me at £18k.
To get the next 20 years out of it its about to get a body off chassis restoration, including this and over the next 10 years I expect to own the car my average spend will likely remain at £1,000 a year so by the time I sell lets say my 20 year TVR experience will have cost me the best part of £30k including buying the car.
But at year 20 when I sell I would have saved £9,000 on fuel bills by running the car on LPG and hopefully the car will be worth at least £16k in 2030 meaning I effectively get £25k back including those fuel savings, that leaves just £5k spent over 20 years of TVR ownership making it a very cheap hobby/classic car to own over that period.
The car being discussed here is a restoration project and unless the it could be purchased for £1,000 ish it looks to me like it'll prove beyond economic restoration, for sure you'd end up spending more than its worth, I doubt it would make much more than £2,500 if the seller put it in a proper no reserve auction and even that's too much money.
Sad but true
There is 'auction fever' though. I was at the Brightwells one in April 2017 (TVR values were on the up then) and somebody though there was value in this. It had carpets missing, dash and seats were past it and shocking paint finish with filler in the doors where awful mirrors had been fitted. It did start and run and had a valid MoT but with what I could see of the very rusty chassis, it was amazingly bought for £6400!
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100007978
After fitting a proper set of mirrors and taking the surface off the dashboard, it was punted back through the same auction (!) 4 months later (August 2017), and this time it reached only £4200:
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100008515
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100007978
After fitting a proper set of mirrors and taking the surface off the dashboard, it was punted back through the same auction (!) 4 months later (August 2017), and this time it reached only £4200:
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100008515
V8fan said:
There is 'auction fever' though. I was at the Brightwells one in April 2017 (TVR values were on the up then) and somebody though there was value in this. It had carpets missing, dash and seats were past it and shocking paint finish with filler in the doors where awful mirrors had been fitted. It did start and run and had a valid MoT but with what I could see of the very rusty chassis, it was amazingly bought for £6400!
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100007978
After fitting a proper set of mirrors and taking the surface off the dashboard, it was punted back through the same auction (!) 4 months later (August 2017), and this time it reached only £4200:
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100008515
I suspect the 2nd price was more realistic than the first crazy price. I don't think most appreciate how much time and money it takes to do a decent refurb.https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100007978
After fitting a proper set of mirrors and taking the surface off the dashboard, it was punted back through the same auction (!) 4 months later (August 2017), and this time it reached only £4200:
https://www.brightwells.com/lot-details/100008515
I understand my 500 has had just over £20k spent on it over the last 2-3 years. That doesn't include a respray. Pretty much everything else though! I can see why people do it to their own cars of course to keep for a long time.
TJC46 said:
1993 Chim on ebay. It seems a little sad when you see these cars in this condition.
Could be a good buy for someone, but it at what price ? May seem cheap starting at 4.5k but looking at the pics, that car needs some serious work.
Ad describes the chassis as looking good.................i've seen a few and that does not look good.
Evidence of mice looking at the interior pics, so god knows what damage they may have done. Here you go, make your own mind up.
In the best TVR colour i might add...................not that i'm biased in any way.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-chimaera-1993-4-lit...
I could have done with this earlier this year just for the body to go on my resto' which I no longer have, not for that price thoughCould be a good buy for someone, but it at what price ? May seem cheap starting at 4.5k but looking at the pics, that car needs some serious work.
Ad describes the chassis as looking good.........
........i've seen a few and that does not look good.Evidence of mice looking at the interior pics, so god knows what damage they may have done. Here you go, make your own mind up.
In the best TVR colour i might add..............
.....not that i'm biased in any way.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-chimaera-1993-4-lit...
Hi folks it was me who was selling the TVR above , just to make a few points
Firstly its sold had 3 offers in the first morning of 5k and above
So those kind folk ( ChimpOnGas) I'm cooking you some humble pie tonight and leaving you a big piece
Also chimp on gas I noticed your comment about proper auction , Again flippant comment as it was a 'proper auction'
No I'm not one of those fake accounts too
secondly TVRSJW
first thoughts were , ad says not touched in 9 years battery taken off years ago , not attempted to start it etc etc so why then.......... is there fresh set of HT leads on it ? And why has it had a recent fresh silver spray job on the chassis rails where they have simply sprayed over the lines and even cable ties ? Would have been much better off leaving it alone and selling as it was to me looks like they have tried to get it going and failed and sprayed over a rusty chassis
1 Fresh set of spark leads , think you need your eyes testing chap
we all know how to prepare an engine for cranking ( well some do ) and spark plug leads would be the last thing
2 , chassis ..this believe or not was painted god knows when , why would i craw under a car and paint it esp round the tubular arms which i couldn't even get at ? just to sell and then emulate surface rust so it looks like its been done a couple of years ago
personally your comments are worthy of 16 year old twok on face book
Just to confirm too that YES REALLY the car was the lady who purchased my house and yes its not been touched for that long and yes the only thing i did was take pictures and check the chassis ,
One other note the purchaser of said car jacked it up too and was more than happy with it !
Some folk are just so cynical
I totally agree when restoring a car costs can soar but then that all depends on how far you go and who is doing the work
Thanks for reading my first post on piston heads
Firstly its sold had 3 offers in the first morning of 5k and above
So those kind folk ( ChimpOnGas) I'm cooking you some humble pie tonight and leaving you a big piece
Also chimp on gas I noticed your comment about proper auction , Again flippant comment as it was a 'proper auction'
No I'm not one of those fake accounts too
secondly TVRSJW
first thoughts were , ad says not touched in 9 years battery taken off years ago , not attempted to start it etc etc so why then.......... is there fresh set of HT leads on it ? And why has it had a recent fresh silver spray job on the chassis rails where they have simply sprayed over the lines and even cable ties ? Would have been much better off leaving it alone and selling as it was to me looks like they have tried to get it going and failed and sprayed over a rusty chassis
1 Fresh set of spark leads , think you need your eyes testing chap
we all know how to prepare an engine for cranking ( well some do ) and spark plug leads would be the last thing
2 , chassis ..this believe or not was painted god knows when , why would i craw under a car and paint it esp round the tubular arms which i couldn't even get at ? just to sell and then emulate surface rust so it looks like its been done a couple of years ago
personally your comments are worthy of 16 year old twok on face book
Just to confirm too that YES REALLY the car was the lady who purchased my house and yes its not been touched for that long and yes the only thing i did was take pictures and check the chassis ,
One other note the purchaser of said car jacked it up too and was more than happy with it !
Some folk are just so cynical
I totally agree when restoring a car costs can soar but then that all depends on how far you go and who is doing the work
Thanks for reading my first post on piston heads
Wow, over £5k... well done for that, someone is in for some spending there but I genuinely wish them well with it.
For clarity what I meant by a 'Proper Auction' was a 'Physical Traditional Auction' where there are many bidders physically in the room, the same room as the car.
Personally I would have gone for the £13k car that's already had a body off chassis restoration as it'll most likely prove to be the smarter buy financially, saying that if you're on a strict budget and you're handy with the tools a project car can be a way to spread the costs even if the end number works out higher than buying a sorted car in the first place.
Sorry if I've caused offence as this was not my intention, I wish you and the buyer all the best with his new TVR.
For clarity what I meant by a 'Proper Auction' was a 'Physical Traditional Auction' where there are many bidders physically in the room, the same room as the car.
Personally I would have gone for the £13k car that's already had a body off chassis restoration as it'll most likely prove to be the smarter buy financially, saying that if you're on a strict budget and you're handy with the tools a project car can be a way to spread the costs even if the end number works out higher than buying a sorted car in the first place.
Sorry if I've caused offence as this was not my intention, I wish you and the buyer all the best with his new TVR.
ChimpOnGas said:
Wow, over £5k... well done for that, someone is in for some spending there but I genuinely wish them well with it.
For clarity what I meant by a 'Proper Auction' was a 'Physical Traditional Auction' where there are many bidders physically in the room, the same room as the car.
Personally I would have gone for the £13k car that's already had a body off chassis restoration as it'll most likely prove to be the smarter buy financially, saying that if you're on a strict budget and you're handy with the tools a project car can be a way to spread the costs even if the end number works out higher than buying a sorted car in the first place.
Sorry if I've caused offence as this was not my intention, I wish you and the buyer all the best with his new TVR.
Hi No problem chap , ebay starting auction @ £0 think you end up with too many messages whats your buy it now etc also shill bidding what folk do too , I was surprised at the response to be fair , I do like the best offer option on ebay now too , For clarity what I meant by a 'Proper Auction' was a 'Physical Traditional Auction' where there are many bidders physically in the room, the same room as the car.
Personally I would have gone for the £13k car that's already had a body off chassis restoration as it'll most likely prove to be the smarter buy financially, saying that if you're on a strict budget and you're handy with the tools a project car can be a way to spread the costs even if the end number works out higher than buying a sorted car in the first place.
Sorry if I've caused offence as this was not my intention, I wish you and the buyer all the best with his new TVR.
Not being a TVR man my self so i was undecided on how much it was worth ( she made me eat humble pie too ha ) , saying that i told her to sell it years ago but she was emotionally attached ( but i think we have all been there )
I actually quite liked it when it came out into the sunlight :O)
yes makes sense to buy a car done but on the other hand we do like to tinker on them isn't that the attraction of some cars
Regards Spencer
Well done, I am pleased, but nevertheless surprised that you got over £5k for a car requiring restoration.
There's a 400 with PAS on ebay with MoT etc that's been there for a while for £8495 (reduced I think) and not sold!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-Chimaera-400-PAS-mo...
There's a 400 with PAS on ebay with MoT etc that's been there for a while for £8495 (reduced I think) and not sold!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-Chimaera-400-PAS-mo...
But as the OP has highlighted people buy cars for different reasons , maybe someone wanted a red one and wants to restore one as a barn find ?
In recent months there seems to be a good number of well cared for cars less than 12K down to £8K only a year ago 12K was entry level ! I’ve purchased two in 18 months so followed prices carefully seems you can get a lot more Chim for your money now !
In recent months there seems to be a good number of well cared for cars less than 12K down to £8K only a year ago 12K was entry level ! I’ve purchased two in 18 months so followed prices carefully seems you can get a lot more Chim for your money now !
Well done 
on achieving 5k for a restoration project. I must admit i am a bit surprised but as an owner of one it can only help with future values.
The value of my car is not my main priority, as i like to drive it and improve it where i can.
It's just a nice to think i may get some of the fortune i have spent on it back at some point......................but then i have no intention to sell
on achieving 5k for a restoration project. I must admit i am a bit surprised but as an owner of one it can only help with future values.The value of my car is not my main priority, as i like to drive it and improve it where i can.
It's just a nice to think i may get some of the fortune i have spent on it back at some point......................but then i have no intention to sell
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1186892
Is this the same car? Looks like its been cleaned up for a flip at 7,000 GBP auction estimate. Slightly odd listing mentioning no business name, website under maintenance.
Is this the same car? Looks like its been cleaned up for a flip at 7,000 GBP auction estimate. Slightly odd listing mentioning no business name, website under maintenance.
It's back on ebay. The 'auction estimate' must be what he's expecting to get for it:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-TVR-Chimaera-4-0-V...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-TVR-Chimaera-4-0-V...
geeman237 said:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1186892
Is this the same car? Looks like its been cleaned up for a flip at 7,000 GBP auction estimate. Slightly odd listing mentioning no business name, website under maintenance.
If you Google the post code from the listing click on the maps then mycar unless its old it has a web site with the same details as the ebay ad name, contact number and a working web site not much on it though.Is this the same car? Looks like its been cleaned up for a flip at 7,000 GBP auction estimate. Slightly odd listing mentioning no business name, website under maintenance.
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