Dumb question about fuel consumption!!!
Dumb question about fuel consumption!!!
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andy-w

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1,987 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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First i need to thank all of you that pointed me in the right direction with my starting and uneven running problems....new engine heat sensor and optimax petrol and it runs like a dream!!!
I am in Newcastle and am going to worthing (south coast) approx 340 miles i have only just got the car and am wondering what the fuel consumption should be...a lad i work with has got a V8s and he rekons he can get 40mpg on a motorway????

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Only if he pushes it for the last 150 miles! I reckon on about 25 mpg for a 4.0 cruising, nearer 20 mpg for a 500. Engine setup can make a huge difference, my V8S was around 18 mpg in N/A form but dropped to around 12 mpg when it was richened up.

andy-w

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1,987 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Hi GreenV8S...you are one of the main ones i need to thank for your help...a big cheers!!!

What would you call cruising speed?

in 5th today it was doing 90 at 2.5k revs...i have always assumed an engine is roughly at its most economical at around 3k revs?

jon_w

26 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Best I've had is 26mpg on a leisurely 250 mile run (Chimaera 500), although generally I think I get about 18 - 22 mpg. If you get 40mpg you're not driving it right

>> Edited by jon_w on Wednesday 8th June 20:35

2 Smokin Barrels

32,007 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Careful cruisin' 28 mpg from a 4.0.

Combined stuff, with no madness (!) about 22mpg be it a 4, 4.5 or 5.0

andy-w

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Its only a 4ltr so it should be on the better scale!!!

That does not seem too bad at all...i shall just have to resist any numptys in subaru's or clio's with blacked out windows!!!

TvrToe

71 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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I got 27 on the 170 mile journey home after buying my Chimaera 400 and get around 22 on my daily commute/local cruising. I expect this will come down as I get comfortable with the handling and explore the 'envelope'

petros

2,441 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Don't reckon I could get 40mpg rolling downhill with the engine off !!

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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andy-w said:
in 5th today it was doing 90 at 2.5k revs...i have always assumed an engine is roughly at its most economical at around 3k revs?


Depends how much wind resistance there is.

I tend to get between 25-30 on the motorway with the roof up and windows closed.

rbryant

318 posts

270 months

Wednesday 8th June 2005
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Chim 450 and regular motorway runs from Kent to Yorksire

Best, just under 25 mpg
Average 23 to 24 mpg

Doesn't seem to make much difference what speed I do, mind you I cannot resist putting the foot down. One benefit of owning a TVR is I find it clears the ourside lane very effectively, so you can maintain a faster pace than in an anonymous car.

Unfortunately its only 15-16 on my slow commute to work, but hey, you get to wind the windows down and listen to the noise.

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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If I might suggest something...

Find out for yourself! Fill up as you leave and see how many miles you've done when you have to fill up. As a guideline - if you don't know your range do not attempt to go more than 250 miles on a tank and start looking for places to refill when you get to 200 miles. To be honest 250 miles is probably pprobably pushing it (although I have heard of people who can get more than that without any bother).

zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Careful cruising in my 400 I'll get (just) 200-230 miles from the tank but then thats pushing the needle right down. Something I don't like doing as the guages are so inaccurate. From full to qtr tank I usually get about 160-170 miles on a good run. Though I challenge you to try and complete a 340 mile drive (2 fill ups at least) and stay at a constant speed, driving econimically. In a car like this its very hard to do and I for one don't have the will-power to stop myself from using the loud pedal too much.

Wildfire

9,948 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Crusing in my modified Griff 4.0 I once got 33mpg out of the car, mind you this was doing 70 odd pretty much constantly. I used to go from Newcastle (Heaton) to Surrey regularly in my 2.9 V6 S3 and I was getting there on about 1.5 tanks of petrol.

With the Griff at 80 - 98 you're looking at around 25mpg, I'd say for a 4.0

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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You have a TVR and you are bothered about MPG..?

Jeez... sell up and buy a diesel VW....

JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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I'm very and keep all my petrol / mileage data on a spreadsheet. The data is also updated onto my PH profile for the car.

As you can see here the average fuel consumption of my 500 over 46 months / 15.7k miles is 18mpg and the median is closer to 17mpg.

Best tank average ever is 24mpg and worst is 14mpg


>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 9th June 10:37

andy-w

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Cool, sounds good...i was just wondering as my fuel gauge is all over the place and the last thing i want is to be stuck between services...at least now i know roughly how far i can get on a full tank!

JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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I treat the fuel gauge as a vague indicator at best. In fact, I've got so used to looking at the trip counter and not the fuel gauge that I recently ran out of fuel after being wrongfooted by the car doing a lot of idling at the garage, thus using up fuel at 0mpg.

See this thread

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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andy-w said:
What would you call cruising speed?

in 5th today it was doing 90 at 2.5k revs



err I don't think so.. ..that would give you a theoretical speed of 180 mph at 5000 rpm.

I'm not sure if you have the older or newer gearbox but your car will be either:

Newer BTR Diff has a final drive of 3.45 to 1, and the later BW T5 Box has a 5th gear ratio of 0.83 to 1, this would give 2863.5 rpm per 1000 wheel rpm. So multiplying it by .838* will give 2400 rpm at 60 MPH

Old GKN Diff has a final drive of 3.31 to 1, and the early LT77 Box has a 5th gear ratio of 0.83 to 1 in top. this would give 2747.3 engine rpm per 1000 wheel rpm. So multiplying it by .838* will give 2302 rpm at 60 MPH

*the wheel rolling circumference is apx 192cm. Accordingly 1609m (1mile)/1.92 = 838 revolutions per 1mile

Cheers,
Matt

PS I get about 230 miles to a tank on a 4.0.

>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 9th June 10:58

andy-w

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1,987 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Sorry M@H...checked the revs and speeds again this morning and it was no where near that (90 @25k revs)...must not have been awake yesterday...seems to be about average that 230 miles per tank....i think i will go along those lines and just top up ever 150 miles.

JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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andy-w said:
90 @25k revs
Blimey! I predict Formula 1 engineers queuing up to see your engine if that's the case.