Running temp
Running temp
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davey s

Original Poster:

34 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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My 500 runs at about 85 degrees on open road at about 60/70 mph.
Fans are working, and kick in just under 90 degrees.
When I get into traffic though, the temp starts to climb pretty rapidly to late 90s/approaching a ton.
bearing in mind that I'm going to be on the M25 in rush hour tomorrow, just a tad worried.
What's the top temp to safely drive her?

Putting the blowers on hot seems to vent the temp enough to keep it constant, but this is ery far from ideal!

I fitted the hot start kit a few weeks ago, which has cured that problem - could it have caused the car to run hotter?

Thoughts on curing this greatly appreciated.
D

Chris Smith

287 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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My 400 runs about 70 on the open road and the fans kick in at just over 85 in traffic. Haven't seen above 90 but a friend with a bored out engine (to 460) regularly sees high 90s. Not sure if this is a help - but you're welcome to the info. Probabl;y worth calling a good main dealer - Racing Green might have a pretty good idea.

2 Smokin Barrels

32,007 posts

264 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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The guages vary as much as the engines! I had two Chimaeras that regularly indicated 100 degrees, but fans cut in & out, & they never over heated. (Including in traffic jams in Rome, Barcelona etc.)

Tiger

769 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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70 Open Road
85 Fans Cut
90 Sit in Traffic for hours (never goes above)

rnd

388 posts

295 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Why not put in an over-ride switch (2 wires to stat at rad and 1 wire to +ve on fan motor for a indicator light). I think it works very well. When I come into traffic I switch it on and engine stays near enough at same temp as when I switched it on at (85)
I think it is better to keep engine at same temp as much as possible.

Colin L

1,243 posts

296 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Even better why not just go drive fast..........


Go on Ray you know you want toooo....

Colin L

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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I don't really worry about anything overheating, the fans kick in and the temperature stays constant.

If the motorway is really slow (ie 0mph), I would suggest just pulling the bonnet catch (amazing difference to heat loss), pull onto the hard shoulder and replace it once things get moving again. Don't forget!

gf350

805 posts

295 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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70 Open Road
85 Fans
Max 88 sat in traffic


I do have a lower temp otter switch / thermostat fitted.

Before it would run at about 92/3 sat in traffic.


>> Edited by gf350 on Thursday 23 June 13:20

the elk

23 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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Mine is the same as "2 Smokin Barrels" runs around 100+ and now over heating.... yet!

jonathant

880 posts

313 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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I've seen 125C on my temp gauge when normal running was 90-100C. Problem was the otter switch had packed in.
Found by accident that running the aircon switched on the cooling fans too.

The temp sender has been subsequently changed and I've got some irreversable temperature strips now to calibrate the gauge against.

>> Edited by jonathant on Thursday 23 June 15:13

trinitycall

655 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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Not sure if it's available for chimaeras, but Steve_T has a Mark Adams upgrade pertaining to temperature/fan stuff in his cerb.

it's a digital computer/display thingy with little buttons. looks pretty cool as it goes.

Regards,

N

rnd

388 posts

295 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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Now Colin you know I would not break the spead limit and I am sure that no other TVR driver would either.???????????

kevin Secker

249 posts

312 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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The temps you are seeing are "normal" depending on your guage and sender.My temp sender packed up last week after 8 years of sterling service. It used to show

70 - cruise
85 - crawl
90 - stop/start (with fans working)
never normally saw higher

Now after new sender (i.e. same guage/wiring etc.) it shows

80 - cruise
92 - crawl
97 - stop/start.

Having used one of these laser temp sensor things it would appear that the old guage under read and the new one over reads slightly (nerve racking at first). You just get to learn what your car does.

As an aside, when the wiring to one of my fans failed, I saw 100 on the old guage. No problem really and no lasting effects but the engine sounded decidely unhappy (lumpy idle, hunting). There are plenty of warnings of impending doom.

Leave the otter switch alone. If you go for a lower temp one the fans never switch off in any sort of traffic bringing on premature wear/failure and there is no comforting cycling of the fans to let you know all is well. Fit an over-ride switch/indicator light. It has all of the benfits of cooling the car in traffic with none of the downsides. Seeing the light come on gives you faith that the fans are working (can't always hear them above the engine!!!)

Kevin

Colin L

1,243 posts

296 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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So RND just what road trips have you followed me and Jiggs on then!!!!!!!

Colin L

vinty1

43 posts

282 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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I have a similar problem temp seems to rise quicker than it used to even with fan over ride on temp keeps on rising when in traffic hovers just under 120 degrees but no steam or loss of water. Previously if over ride switched on at 80 degrees temp would stay at 80 degrees. Also twice now after stopping car has refused to start had to wait five mins before it would sart which has never happened before any ideas?

davey s

Original Poster:

34 posts

261 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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Okay,
Worked out what the actual problem is after a closer inspection. Drivers side fan is not working at all.
The cigarette lighter switch also stopped working last week. coincidence or related?
Going for a bit of a play when the lightning stops.
Any handy hints?
expect to try the following......
Fuse would be the first port of call.
then check power to fan (but other one is working and it seems that the power goes into the passenger side one first so would expect to not be working too.)
otter switch next?

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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Will not be otter as it swiches both relays. Could be fuse, relay or corodded conector to fan, or indeed the fan itself, swap over fans to see if swaps over.Worst case fuse box or burnt out wiring between box and fan, easily fixed.

davey s

Original Poster:

34 posts

261 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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I've swapped the fan connectors over and the other one works, so not that.
changed the relay over and not that.
changed the fuse over and not that.
Must have a wiring problem, or the connector is knackered. another job this weekend!
thanks all for the help.

fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Hi there,

There's alot of sound advice on here and here's my 5penneth worth..

Firstly, make sure everything is working as nature intended... i.e. Make sure the fans do cut in and that they both work..

The Chimaera (like most TVR's) is very sensitive in the cooling department and wont tolerate non-working fans etc..

Secondly, once you know everything is working correctly get a feel as to what is normal in your car.
The guages vary from car to car so 70 degrees on one car could be indicating 75 or possibly nearer 80 on another...

Things like override switches are great to have as a fail-safe or emergency situation but i wouldnt recommend using one every time you get into traffic as it could be hiding other problems..

Also before you jump at fitting a cooler thermostat etc remember that the car needs to be warm just as much as it needs to be cool.. If on the open road the car is running too cold (under 70 degrees ish) then the car will be out of its sweet spot and will be generating less power, using more fuel, and potentially generating additional engine wear!!

IF in doubt spend a few quid getting the cooling system inspected.. That way you will have a good start to a) having peace of mind knowing all is ok and b) when anything does go wrong you will notice a difference in the characteristics of the guages / car.

I hope that helps.

cheers,

Nick