New HT leads caught on fire - any idea on cause?
New HT leads caught on fire - any idea on cause?
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rgw2012

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605 posts

164 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I was just out for the 3rd or 4th 30 min spin after replacing the full set of HT leads with 8.5mm leads from Mr Retro leads - suddenly started misfiring badly so pulled over and then the engine died. My son then noticed smoke from under the bonnet so lifted it up and the king lead was on fire at the dizzy cap and catching the surrounding leads on fire too. A quick blast of the extinguisher sorted it before any real damage was done to other components (aside from the vacuum advance tube having melted in half). Photos below but wondered if anyone could speculate as to possible cause? Is it possible that one of the new HT leads was faulty or could it be the dizzy cap in some way? I am lost as to how it could have happened.




Steve_D

13,799 posts

279 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I can imagine a faulty lead arching but actually on fire and burning does not make sense.
I think you will be having an interesting conversation with the manufacturer.

Steve

rgw2012

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605 posts

164 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Steve_D said:
I can imagine a faulty lead arching but actually on fire and burning does not make sense.
I think you will be having an interesting conversation with the manufacturer.

Steve
Yup, have emailed to seek their views, will report back

AlexanderV8

1,486 posts

224 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Bloody hell yikes
Couple that with the splitting fuel line problem and you could have had yourself a right old barbecue. Glad you are ok.
No wonder they’re called Retro leads if they become a thing of the past that quickly though.

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Have you checked if a fuel hose has failed and sprayed fuel over the leads, that could explain the fire.

rgw2012

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Friday 16th July 2021
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Loubaruch said:
Have you checked if a fuel hose has failed and sprayed fuel over the leads, that could explain the fire.
Yup, was my immediate thought but no issues noted. I put the old leads back on to replace the damaged ones and it ran home fine wobble

s p a c e m a n

11,489 posts

169 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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That's mad, I've never seen a lead do that before.

Belle427

11,085 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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Very strange, normally his stuff is spot on.
Keep us posted on any findings as I do big him up quite a lot and would be interested on the outcome.

TwinKam

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116 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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To my mind there are two separate issues combining here:
1. That something got hot enough to cause ignition...this could be an excessively high resistance eg at a terminal crimp.
2. That the lead material supported combustion...
This I shouldn't have thought possible, certainly nothing I've seen before either, and I can only think a mis-spec of the cable.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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TwinKam said:
To my mind there are two separate issues combining here:
1. That something got hot enough to cause ignition...this could be an excessively high resistance eg at a terminal crimp.
2. That the lead material supported combustion...
This I shouldn't have thought possible, certainly nothing I've seen before either, and I can only think a mis-spec of the cable.
Me too

lancelin

239 posts

142 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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I’ve built a couple of sets of mr retro leads and the materials look top quality. Hard to see how they could catch fire. I have some spare 8.5mm lead so will do some experiments. The outer is obviously silicone but wonder if the inner part is combustible.