Red springs front, yellow back?

[meeko]

I'm trying to decide if I've put my replacement springs/shocks on the correct way. They are original spec bilsteins with eibach springs from a 2000 Griff500. I fitted the red springs to the front, and yellow to the back. Can anyone confirm that this is the correct way? Better still, does anyone know the correct part numbers so I can check them. Would be VERY grateful for any help. I don't want to waste time swapping them over if they're on correctly and I have a different problem.

Many thanks, sad TVR owner.

[David H]

Mine's a '94 Griff Meeko, but I had Red on the front and Yellow on the back as standard.

Hope this helps

[trackcar]

front suspension parts all start CO and rear suspension parts all start DO

so a front part number might for example be CO112

[meeko]

Thanks guys. I'm not sure about the CO and DO, but I did notice that the front ones were 0098. Not sure about the first bit. Will try and have a look. If they're on right, any thoughts as to why the front is higher? When I fitted them I had to really force the front hub down (didn't have a spring compressor) to fit them.

[GreenV8S]

Wrong dampers? The ride height depends on the spring seat positions as well as the spring rate and length, so if you have the wrong combination of spring and damper you might have all standard parts and still get the wrong ride height? Just a guess.

[trackcar]

meeko said:

Thanks guys. I'm not sure about the CO and DO, but I did notice that the front ones were 0098. Not sure about the first bit. Will try and have a look. If they're on right, any thoughts as to why the front is higher? When I fitted them I had to really force the front hub down (didn't have a spring compressor) to fit them.

Hmm .. well it is possible to fit the rear dampers onto the front, and it will give you a very high ride height .. but the front dampers shoudn't fit on the rear easily, the rear dampers have an extended top eye to make the top spring seat clear the upper wishbone .. if you try to fit a front damper on the rear then it will be a real struggle to get the top bolt in because teh top spring seat fouls against teh upper wishbone. Was teh rear damper set particularly difficult to get in place?

It looks at the moment like you have got them the wrong way around .. can yuo take a digital piccie to show us some detail?

[mack]

Meeko,
These are the part numbers from my Griff 500

BILSTEIN DAMPERS - Front / Rear
Part No: 1398B461715 M2 / 1800BE56084 M0
TVR Part No: C0163 / D0351

EIBACH SPRINGS - Front / Rear
Part No: 04/99 / 20/99
TVR Part No: C0098 / D0103
Colour: Red / Yellow

Hope this helps
mack

[meeko]

Thankyou all for your advice. I'll try and take some pictures at work today so you can see the sorry car. Having spoke to a few TVR garages, it seems that I have definitely fitted them the right way around.

I can only think that the ride height is different because of the camber being out. I had the camber set recently (with saggy old springs where there was about an inch clearance between tyre and arch). Now the car has stiffer springs, and is higher, I can only think that the camber is now drastically out and the car is riding on the outside edge of the tyres. This would give the appearance that it is higher.

Racing Green also suggested that as the springs are from a newer car it would have had 16 inch wheels on the front, taking up more of the arch.

[mongoose]

meeko said:

Racing Green also suggested that as the springs are from a newer car it would have had 16 inch wheels on the front, taking up more of the arch.

Theyre off a car with 15" fronts Steve.

[GreenV8S]

Don't buy that. The bigger wheels are fitted with lower profile tyres and the outside radius of the tyre is virtually identical front and rear. If the wheel geometrylooks remotely right the camber changes will make negligeable difference to the ride height. Even if you had 45 degrees of camber the ride height change would only be an inch or so.

I think you've either got the wrong springs, or the wrong dampers. If you had them off the car it would be possible to measure everything up and see whether it was possible to achieve the right ride height using those components, but probably easier just to compare yours with another standard car and see which components are different.

[meeko]

I think I'll have a good look and try and get the part numbers from the springs and dampers. I guess then I'd know.

I wonder if I bent the anti roll bar fitting them as I had to force the hub down a great deal to line them up. WOuld that affect the height?

[meeko]

Another thought - is it worth slackening off the mounting bolts, lowering the car and then tightening them? Maybe I did them too tight and the bushes can't move?

[meeko]

Ok, Managed to take some pics with my phone so apologies for the poor quality!. Just noticed that the outside two inches of the edges of the front tyres are scrubbing too.

Any help would be very kindly received (and it is my Birthday today!) Thank you all.

Front Spring
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/front.jpg [/pic]

Front tyre gap
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/front1.jpg [/pic]

Front spring
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/front2.jpg [/pic]

Rear spring
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/rear.jpg [/pic]

rear tyre gap
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/rear1.jpg [/pic]

Rear spring
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/rear3.jpg [/pic]

Rear spring
[pic] www.rumpy.org/tvr/rear4.jpg [/pic]




>> Edited by meeko on Tuesday 13th December 12:21

>> Edited by meeko on Tuesday 13th December 12:22

[seasider]

meeko said:

(and it is my Birthday today!) Thank you all.

No excuse to not wash it



I have a marked up set at home that i will look at tonight (if i get home early or sober enough

[IPAddis]

I would say the front tyre gap looks right. I can get 4 fingers of my hand in vertically between the tyre and body.

The rear looks a little small. Have you got something heavy in the boot?

Bear in mind that it can take a while for the ride height to sort itself out after lowering the car from jacks.

Ian A.

[meeko]

I know it's filthy. I've spent so much time fixing it, let alone wash it! I'll measure the ride height, but I would say the front needs to come down a fraction and the back up. There's nothing heavy in it - only 2/3 a tank of fuel. Thanks guys

[Seasider]

meeko said:

I know it's filthy. I've spent so much time fixing it, let alone wash it! I'll measure the ride height, but I would say the front needs to come down a fraction and the back up. There's nothing heavy in it - only 2/3 a tank of fuel. Thanks guys

Measure the chassis rails. I think anything around Front 125 to 140mm Rear about +10mm but not 100% sure on the numbers...

[meeko]

I took it to TVR Bodyshop for a full geo. It cost £99+VAT but they said the back camber was on max adjustment and they couldn't set it to the correct angle. The front gap between tyre and arch is still more than the rear, but will measure the height when I get a chance.

I have definitely put the suspension on the right way, as the front spring p/n is C0098 and the rear shock is D0351. All I can think is the rears are a little saggy and because the back is lower the front is slightly higher.

Thanks to all for your help!

[meeko]

I've just checked a geo print out I had done about three months ago. The rear camber was -0o37' & -0o52'. Now it's -1o18' & -1o12'. This is the best they could get it. It's obviously changed a fair bit due to the replacement shocks. Would having slightly saggy shocks result in more negative camber? I'm pretty sure the back's lower because of this, which has made me worry so much about the front being high. Will post a side profile picture so you guys can see the sorry car.