Handbrake
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Noodle30

Original Poster:

46 posts

252 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Being an athletic bloke I have no problems what so ever with the handbrake but my missus struggles and has she has a half share in the car is looking longingly at Beetle convertibles!

Does anyone know of any modification or adjustment that you can do to help the little lady?

Nuggs

4,640 posts

264 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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I hardly ever use the handbrake. Leave it in gear when stopped (expect on a significant incline) and get to the bite point quickly when doing a hill start...

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

255 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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I thought the handbrake was just for decoration?

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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puffsorted2 said:
I thought the handbrake was just for decoration?




Oh...and...they all do that, sir.

Ours is utterly rubbish. Apparently its a cut-down Sierra item and so doesn't have enough leverage - IIRC - happy to be corrected. A mate's Cerb has a fully functioning perfectly working handbrake. I was gobsmacked.

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Noodle30 said:
Being an athletic bloke I have no problems what so ever with the handbrake but my missus struggles and has she has a half share in the car is looking longingly at Beetle convertibles!

Does anyone know of any modification or adjustment that you can do to help the little lady?


No - but there's a technique. My wife (who's car it is) uses BOTH hands. She's got pretty good at it. Of course - you could also buy her a Bullworker...

Noodle30

Original Poster:

46 posts

252 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Could do with a bit of pipe to put over then end to increase the leverage?????

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Noodle30 said:
Could do with a bit of pipe to put over then end to increase the leverage?????


Tad inconvenient carrying a length of pipe around though.

"Hello, hello, hello. Wot have we got here, then?"

"Honest officer its so I can put me handbrake on...its not for carjackers, honest, hardly at all..."

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Don said:

its not for carjackers


I was once stopped at the port going to France by a
customs official asking about the bonnet-stay on my car.
He had only recently stopped someone in a
Chimaera with a baseball-bat "because his
bonnet-stay was broken and they are expensive
to replace". It sounded about as likely
as your handbrake lead-piping...

And yes, they are all like that - the girlfriend would not stop
on a hill unless I was the passenger seat

chassis 33

6,194 posts

312 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Try this...

Before applying the handbrake, press on the brake pedal and hold the pedal down while applying the handbrake. This way the handbrake is just taking up the slack in the cable and not forcing the brakes on. Likewise do the same when you release the handbrake.

Regards
Iain

Noodle30

Original Poster:

46 posts

252 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Cheers that makes sense, anything other than selling my pride and joy!

richb

56,281 posts

314 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Another tip, is that in a vain effort to improve the handbrake mechanics over tighten the handbrake cable so there is only 2 x clicks on the ratchet between 'on' and 'off'. Try slackening the adjustment so that there are x clicks to set the brake and 4 x clicks to 'really' set it on a hill. Mine is like this and because you seem to get a bit more leverage it works fine. Rich...

bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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I must remember to get a picture of my Mrs doing her handbrake manoeuver. If I have left it on and she goes to drive I look out the window and shes there roof off standing with a foot on each seat doing a weighlifter move to release the handbrake. Luckily she usually remembers to put in in gear and switch the engine off first...

She doesnt bother with the handbrake, just uses the footbrake and excellent clutch control on hill starts. And leaves it in gear when parked :-)

tahiti450

712 posts

267 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Don said:

No - but there's a technique. My wife uses BOTH hands. She's got pretty good at it.


Yeah mine too.....Phnawww Phnawwww ...

>> Edited by tahiti450 on Monday 9th January 23:48

>> Edited by tahiti450 on Monday 9th January 23:49

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Mine actually works!!!!

tahiti450

712 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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vixpy1 said:
Mine actually works!!!!


Mine does too, after a fashion, but no good for handbrake turns!

Agree with the comment above that if its over-adjusted with only a couple of clicks of movement most of the mechanical advantage of the lever is lost. Equally applying the brake pressure with the footbrake and whilst taking up the slack with the handbrake is the way to go.
>> Edited by tahiti450 on Tuesday 10th January 00:11

>> Edited by tahiti450 on Tuesday 10th January 00:12

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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The self-adjuster ratchet in the handbrake mechanism needs a fair bit of travel to work. If you take up all the slack on the cable adjuster instead of letting the adjuster in the caliper do its job, you'll find that the lever at the caliper quickly runs out of travel and the handbrake becomes completely ineffective, you just stretch the cable rather than actually apply the brakes.

You need to leave the cable slack enough to get 4-5 clicks as you apply the handbrake. Of course the adjuster can also seize and stop working so having slack doesn't guarantee that the adjusters are working. And even if everything *is* working perfectly, it seems to require a huge effort on the lever to get any significant braking effect.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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GreenV8S said:
The self-adjuster ratchet in the handbrake mechanism needs a fair bit of travel to work. If you take up all the slack on the cable adjuster instead of letting the adjuster in the caliper do its job, you'll find that the lever at the caliper quickly runs out of travel and the handbrake becomes completely ineffective, you just stretch the cable rather than actually apply the brakes.

You need to leave the cable slack enough to get 4-5 clicks as you apply the handbrake. Of course the adjuster can also seize and stop working so having slack doesn't guarantee that the adjusters are working. And even if everything *is* working perfectly, it seems to require a huge effort on the lever to get any significant braking effect.


So.. in summary.. its crap