Rose jointed suspension
Rose jointed suspension
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tvrbob

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11,197 posts

285 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Has anyone done a complete suspension job. I see SH's drop links are very popular. With rose joints replacing the wishbone bushes the suspension would be very tight and far easier to adjust.

mongoose

4,360 posts

285 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I think Guillotine has

tvrbob

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285 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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mongoose said:
I think Guillotine has
He's got roller poly bushes. That's sound easier than rose joints though not adjustable

the gazman

1,686 posts

250 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Tuscan racers have rose jointed suspension, would you want to feel every vibration picked up from the road however slight?.

Surely only on a track car?

GreenV8S

31,020 posts

314 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Back when nylon bushes were fashionable, they quickly developed a reputation for turning all your mounting holes oval (as well as loosening teeth on anything other than a race track). Fitting rod end bearings would be even worse.

tvrbob

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Monday 27th February 2006
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the gazman said:
Tuscan racers have rose jointed suspension, would you want to feel every vibration picked up from the road however slight?.

Surely only on a track car?
Is it really that bad? If so then no I wouldn't

the gazman

1,686 posts

250 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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tvrbob said:
the gazman said:
Tuscan racers have rose jointed suspension, would you want to feel every vibration picked up from the road however slight?.
Surely only on a track car?
Is it really that bad? If so then no I wouldn't


Maybe think about one of the better Polybush kits to tighten it up sufficiantly, without having a dentist job

chevtrev

785 posts

266 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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tvrbob said:
Has anyone done a complete suspension job. I see SH's drop links are very popular. With rose joints replacing the wishbone bushes the suspension would be very tight and far easier to adjust.


Yip
Certainly not a straight forward job to adjust,well these any way,I have to take off the wishbone to wind in or out the rod end for the camber(non adjustable at ball joint end).
Also fabricated bottom chassis mounts to vertical.
One of the cars has only had one road trip,didn't seem that bad.

tvrbob

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11,197 posts

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Monday 27th February 2006
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chevtrev said:
Yip
Certainly not a straight forward job to adjust,well these any way,I have to take off the wishbone to wind in or out the rod end for the camber(non adjustable at ball joint end).
Also fabricated bottom chassis mounts to vertical.
One of the cars has only had one road trip,didn't seem that bad.
Just read your profile. Very modified, I love the idea that it only takes you 5 mins to take the body off.

chassis 33

6,194 posts

312 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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I'm theory, rose joints all round is a great idea...

...in practice (in my opinion) it's a right bugger for road use, I've driven several Cater-fields with all round rose joints and you feel every single stone thats embedded in the tarmac...

...on billiard table smooth race tracks their great, not additional deformation of the contact patch WRT the chassis, other than that from the tyre, and the spindles of the rose joint are the weakest part, which saved me a massive bill when I smashed things up at Mallory last September...in only cost me 3k, not a new chassis...

On the racer if I had the chance, I'd run rose joints, it would be a no brainer, however, as Paul has mentioned, setup work on the currently availibly rosejointed wishbones is a right bugger. However I am looking at the possibility of a setup similar to a lot of single seater cars that run shims to adjust the camber, castor (and kpi), toe etc. If I find something that will work and suits road use, I'll let the world know.

Regards
Iain