'Fan Running' LED, where should I put it?
'Fan Running' LED, where should I put it?
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theaxe

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3,571 posts

252 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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I'm planning to install a 'fan-running' LED (and an override switch), but I'm not sure where to put it?

The bezel on the LED I've got is black plastic so I was thinking of mounting it on the steering cowl. Any suggestions / experience? I'd like the car to look as original as possible and I don't fancy drilling the dash.

mongoose

4,360 posts

285 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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I'd put it on the steering cowl i think,that way if ever you wanted to remove it you can easily get a replacement.as it's a Vauxhall part.
Incidently,will your light work only if the fan is running,or will it come on whenever the voltage is supplied to the fans,ie whenever the relay is switched ?

shorty123

376 posts

267 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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i think you should put somewhere you can see it!


But seriously, the steering cowling is a great place to put it, i put my overide switch and led here and it is all gravy...

theaxe

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3,571 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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The light will come on if volts are supplied to the fans. I'm not sure how I can detect that they're actually running. At least this way an switch/relay/fuse failure will mean that the light won't come on.

I'll go for the steering cowl.

pupp

12,972 posts

302 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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Maybe I'm being obtuse, but isn't there already an obvious indicator of whether things in the cooling world are working properly in that there is a temperature gauge?

theaxe

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Tuesday 13th June 2006
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It's a good question but my temperature gauge is vague at best, if the fans died (blown fuse, bad otter, whatever) I couldn't be sure whether the high reading was due to a fault or just because the car was hot. By the time I was sure the car could have been very hot for too long.

The LED is just a diagnostic tool. Seeing it come on and off will make me feel better. :-)

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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The fans spinning in the air flow may also make the LEDs glow - happens on mine over 40mph :-) I have a hidden switch to dosable the LED - tricolour is nice if you have dual fan circuits.

Dave

theaxe

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252 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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Ah, I hadn't thought of that! :-) Perhaps I need a relay / diode to stop that happening... Humm, if I take the source from the relay it won't happen but then I can't confirm that volts are getting to the fans.

Knight Rider

18 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Make sure it's somewhere you can see it with the roof down and sunlight pooring in... LEDs really aren't that easy to see in daylight

pupp

12,972 posts

302 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Right, so let's recap... if we remember to turn them on, and can see them, and they light up, the fans might be running because there's juice getting through, or they might just be spinning due to airflow, or they might not actually be working 'though they're 'live'... but we'll be confident the car's cool just in case the 'unreliable' gauge is lying. Sounds great

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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I've got various* extra warning lights on top of the steering column, just consisting of LEDs poked up through the gap between the back of the steering column shroud and the dashboard, with the wires folded forward through 90 degrees so the LED points directly towards the driver's face. My setup is functional rather than pretty, but it's reasonably unobtrusive. You can get prettier LED bezzles and housings if you want a better finish.

* fan x3, low oil strobe, low oil steady

theaxe

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252 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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pupp said:
Right, so let's recap... if we remember to turn them on, and can see them, and they light up, the fans might be running because there's juice getting through, or they might just be spinning due to airflow, or they might not actually be working 'though they're 'live'... but we'll be confident the car's cool just in case the 'unreliable' gauge is lying. Sounds great


That's the plan!

pupp

12,972 posts

302 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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theaxe said:
pupp said:
Right, so let's recap... if we remember to turn them on, and can see them, and they light up, the fans might be running because there's juice getting through, or they might just be spinning due to airflow, or they might not actually be working 'though they're 'live'... but we'll be confident the car's cool just in case the 'unreliable' gauge is lying. Sounds great


That's the plan!


Surprised TVR didn't fit this as standard... sounds perfectly in keeping!

Knight Rider

18 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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theaxe said:
That's the plan!

Too much time on your hands? Or just a sucker for LEDs? Tell me it's going to be blue...

theaxe

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252 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Tri-colour all the way...

Green for 1/2 speed, red for full speed, blue for over-ride...

mikes3

235 posts

294 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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FWIW I installed a David Beer two speed fan kit, with the 'run on even if the engines off' dohicky...my chim is now a cool and controlled character, can't rate it highly enough

M@H

11,298 posts

302 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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I thought about this with my first chim and wondered if it would be able to take the temp gauge apart and put the led inside the dial face (like the low pretrol LED). I'd try it with a spare one though

Knight Rider

18 posts

244 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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theaxe said:
That's the plan!

Have you done this mod yet?

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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I may be totally off with this, but if you wired the led in series after the fan surely it would only light if the fan was actually drawing current - ie working - which would in fact make it a useful telltale.

Knight Rider

18 posts

244 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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victormeldrew said:
I may be totally off with this, but if you wired the led in series after the fan surely it would only light if the fan was actually drawing current - ie working - which would in fact make it a useful telltale.


I would have thought the current would be too high unless you also put in some resistors... but it's a good point. Maybe you could have 2 leds - one linked to a thermostat that came on when the fans were needed, and the other that said if the fan was actually on...

...or combine this all in the tri-colour LED