Do 5 litre cranks break?
Do 5 litre cranks break?
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bhpjon

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321 posts

256 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Seems i'm the only one who hasn't heard that 5 litre cranks have a propensity to break regularly, is this true and if it is what can i do about it please chaps (no down sizing isn't an option!)

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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FWIW: V8 developments specifically mentions the issue in the item description of their five litre short engine, and states 'no such problems with our much stronger crank assembly' or words to that effect...

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Its not unknown, but its very very rare.

PhilipC

117 posts

287 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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They do? I'm clearly doing well (or regular is overstating it). >74K and my only engine problem is a new camshaft (just been done).

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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puffsorted2 said:
Its not unknown, but its very very rare.


With only about 600 Chimaera 500s built and how many - 1,700-2,000 Griff 500s I'd say any major failure that occurs more than a couple of times is a bit significant...

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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900T-R said:
puffsorted2 said:
Its not unknown, but its very very rare.


With only about 600 Chimaera 500s built and how many - 1,700-2,000 Griff 500s I'd say any major failure that occurs more than a couple of times is a bit significant...


Put it like this - its that rare (even myth maybe) no one worries about it.

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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puffsorted2 said:

Put it like this - its that rare (even myth maybe) no one worries about it.


Hey Ray_Von,

How much did this myth set you back and how long was your car off the road....!!!
hehe

coetzeeh

2,891 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Read in a magazine some years ago Dave Batty saying that the very early 500's were more prone to breaking cranks.

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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andy-w said:
puffsorted2 said:

Put it like this - its that rare (even myth maybe) no one worries about it.


Hey Ray_Von,

How much did this myth set you back and how long was your car off the road....!!!
hehe


hehe well thats one - not exactly a "propensity to break regularly" issue yet. Can't see the Speed 6 boys crowing about how reliable their engine is compared to the RV8 for a while yet.

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Oh hang on, his didn't break, just bend, that doesn't count hehe

shpub

8,507 posts

302 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Compared to the number of people who have stuffed their 500s, it is very insignificant.

cre

168 posts

251 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Having been working on these for more years than I should of, I could probably count on 2 hands the amount of crank failures where it hasnt been due to the owner being silly and running out of oil etc.

IMHO I dont think that they are too bad, yes there are better options out there if you are looking to create some decent horsepower, but usually you dont need to worry too much.

jamie

adrian@

4,635 posts

312 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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When the FIRST 5 litre cranks were made the company that was to make them was asked to quote for making the pattern, and it being not cheap, TVR in a moment of madness made the pattern in-house, puttting the 'risers' in the wrong place, this caused porosity in the crank and when the cranks were then machined, aero type holes MIGHT appear at the start of the work or 2/3rds in the work OR not. LOTS of crank got written off in this way prior to being fitted. Cars did have these OR NOT cranks installed. TVR blamed the foundry the foundry blamed the pattern. My friend was asked to prove one way or another, and X-rayed the cranks asked to write a report..... problem solved. Almost a myth.
Adrian@


Edited by adrian@ on Thursday 8th March 20:01

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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From what I gathered there have been a few 500 crank breakages lately where engines had been rebuilt, with the possibility that the wrong damper had been put on the engines. The cranks are externally balanced - the crank and damper are a matched pair. Swap damper with another engine (for example in a engine shop where several engine were being built up) and you have an unbalanced crank and a breakage on its way.

Certainly not a rash of breakages that I'm aware of.

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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puffsorted2 said:
Oh hang on, his didn't break, just bend, that doesn't count hehe


True...i wonder when he will be along to have a go at us for taking the mick...hehe

ray_von

3,045 posts

282 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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andy-w said:
True...i wonder when he will be along to have a go at us for taking the mick...hehe

Here I am and as the master of the quick and witty response all I can say is ..... off hehe

ray_von

3,045 posts

282 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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cre said:
I could probably count on 2 hands the amount of crank failures where it hasnt been due to the owner being silly and running out of oil

Put mine on one of your hands Jamie

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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ray_von said:
andy-w said:
True...i wonder when he will be along to have a go at us for taking the mick...hehe

Here I am and as the master of the quick and witty response all I can say is ..... off hehe


Is that 'Body Off'????

hehe

ray_von

3,045 posts

282 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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andy-w said:
ray_von said:
andy-w said:
True...i wonder when he will be along to have a go at us for taking the mick...hehe

Here I am and as the master of the quick and witty response all I can say is ..... off hehe


Is that 'Body Off'????

hehe

If mine needed what yours does it would be getting broken for spares no question. Unless you fancied doing another one biglaugh

bhpjon

Original Poster:

321 posts

256 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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ray_von said:
andy-w said:
ray_von said:
andy-w said:
True...i wonder when he will be along to have a go at us for taking the mick...hehe

Here I am and as the master of the quick and witty response all I can say is ..... off hehe


Is that 'Body Off'????

hehe

If mine needed what yours does it would be getting broken for spares no question. Unless you fancied doing another one biglaugh
blahOOOOOOOOH, don't say that ( I said something similar last saturday but i've got mechanical tourettes!!)smash