Lightened / Alloy Flywheel , Worth It?
Lightened / Alloy Flywheel , Worth It?
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bhpjon

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321 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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confused Evenin' All, Does anyone have any experience of lightened or alloy flywheel's on Chimaera's. I am quite tempted having done the engine up but would like to here from anyone who has done it and what their experiences are. Is it worth the Money, is there an increase in power at the wheels? I am looking at the Mcleod racing clutch and am trying to decide whether to go for the matching alloy flywheel, all contributions gratefully recieved!!

350Matt

3,911 posts

309 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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If you're planning on racing the car then yes, otherwise an alloy flywheel is probably too light for road use.

You can shave a respectable amount off the standard one without having to resort to alloy ones, as if you go too far it will become easy to stall at idle and will make the car unpleasant to drive in traffic

Matt

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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you could always try increasing bhp per ton...!!!

7 or 8 kg of carpet.
1 kg stereo.
diet

there you go...more bhp per ton!!!!!
hehe

bhpjon

Original Poster:

321 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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andy-w said:
you could always try increasing bhp per ton...!!!

7 or 8 kg of carpet.
1 kg stereo.
diet

there you go...more bhp per ton!!!!!
hehe
U sayin' i'm FAT!!!?????

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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bhpjon said:
andy-w said:
you could always try increasing bhp per ton...!!!

7 or 8 kg of carpet.
1 kg stereo.
diet

there you go...more bhp per ton!!!!!
hehe
U sayin' i'm FAT!!!?????
didnt mean you were fat...its just that every bit counts!!!
hehe

JonRB

80,093 posts

302 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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In my opinion there is no reason to lighten the flywheel in the Chimaera. What are you trying to achieve? An engine whose revs rise and fall in an instant? My standard Chimaera 500 does that anyway.

I have a Fidanza lightened flywheel on my Corrado. I have no way of comparing "before and after" as I had a LOT of work done at the same time, but it is now lumpier and more prone to stalling than before and, based on research and apocryphal information (ok, not very scientific) it is probably down to the lightened flywheel.

Edited by JonRB on Saturday 23 June 21:48

bhpjon

Original Poster:

321 posts

256 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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JonRB said:
In my opinion there is no reason to lighten the flywheel in the Chimaera. What are you trying to achieve? An engine whose revs rise and fall in an instant? My standard Chimaera 500 does that anyway.

I have a Fidanza lightened flywheel on my Corrado. I have no way of comparing "before and after" as I had a LOT of work done at the same time, but it is now lumpier and more prone to stalling than before and, based on research and apocryphal information (ok, not very scientific) it is probably down to the lightened flywheel.

Edited by JonRB on Saturday 23 June 21:48
Thanks JonRB, the reason i was asking is that i'am looking at fitting a mcleod racing clutch and need my existing flywheel redrilled to accept the bigger housing; while i was looking at the costs involved in that i came across v8tuner's alloy flywheel for about 450 or a standard billet one for around the 250 mark (The steel is 5 pounds lighter than standard, the alloy only weighs in at 11 pounds overall) So i was asking for guidance whether the additional sums were justifiable, it seems from your reply and the others that it is'nt, Thanks for your help

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Jon,

I think the alloy one is too light for a road car .. mine weights about 20 lbs (modified std) and I dont think 11lbs would be good with a modified engine.

OK for a race car though.

5oo fun

80 posts

282 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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I have a lightened flywheel on my 5.0L.reves pic up a lot quicker and i dont have any problems driving it around town.its been on two rolling roads and they both notice how quick it picks up to,without them knowing,so its not a waste of money.

bhpjon

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321 posts

256 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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5oo fun said:
I have a lightened flywheel on my 5.0L.reves pic up a lot quicker and i dont have any problems driving it around town.its been on two rolling roads and they both notice how quick it picks up to,without them knowing,so its not a waste of money.
Thanks for that! Is yours the billet steel lightened or the alloy one if you don't mind me asking?

5oo fun

80 posts

282 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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its steel billet one,so i dont know how the alloy ones compare.I bet there will be a difference in heat transfer and i would think one would last longer than the other.something for you to look in to.I will keep my eye on this one to find out myself.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Dont know how true it is, but I'm sure someone here once mentioned that one of the 430's differences was in the flywheel.

Dave

2Munkys

1,228 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Speak to V8D bhpjon, they do 'em.

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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It's probably worth taking expert advice here but I would conclude :

Alloy with steel insert at 11lbs is too light for the road.

Steel billet is idea and bullet proof but more expensive

STD TVR flywheel - some have already been lightened
but this can be lightened to a certain expent but I would trust the work to a know expert as a broken
flywheel is a very dangereous thing.. weigh your existing flywheel..

bhpjon

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321 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Thanks very much Guys it, looks like the billet steel one for me!!

v8 racing

2,064 posts

281 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Alloy flywheels are great for well.... not a lot to be honest apart from telling your mates down the pub you have 10 more bhp at the wheels than they do!, for a road car no never, they make the engine so responsive that when the revs are dropping there is not enough enertia to keep the engine running, you are either stalling the car or going down the road head butting the screen and banging your head on the back of the seat!, i even ran one on my race car and reverted back to a normal one!

bhpjon

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321 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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v8 racing said:
Alloy flywheels are great for well.... not a lot to be honest apart from telling your mates down the pub you have 10 more bhp at the wheels than they do!, for a road car no never, they make the engine so responsive that when the revs are dropping there is not enough enertia to keep the engine running, you are either stalling the car or going down the road head butting the screen and banging your head on the back of the seat!, i even ran one on my race car and reverted back to a normal one!
Cheers V8racing,I wouldn't have all these questions if while putting one of your Stealth's in, my 'Friends'said i might as well re-build the engine!!

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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v8 racing said:
Alloy flywheels are great for well.... not a lot to be honest apart from telling your mates down the pub you have 10 more bhp at the wheels than they do!, for a road car no never, they make the engine so responsive that when the revs are dropping there is not enough inertia to keep the engine running, you are either stalling the car or going down the road head butting the screen and banging your head on the back of the seat!, i even ran one on my race car and reverted back to a normal one!
Sounds like a great challenge for our erstwhile mapping gurus to me hehe

Dave