HOT START PROBLEMS

[mikchim]

can any one say what this hot start kit consits of and where i can buy one i have seen it on other threads but nobody says what it is or how it works i seem to be having this problem when car hot even with a fully charged battery it some times strugles to turn over initialy but hasent left me stranded yet

[bigdods]

mikchim said:

can any one say what this hot start kit consits of and where i can buy one i have seen it on other threads but nobody says what it is or how it works i seem to be having this problem when car hot even with a fully charged battery it some times strugles to turn over initialy but hasent left me stranded yet

YHM

[LeoV8]

Its at http://home.btconnect.com/djbeer/id32.html

If the starter motor is turning at all thats probably a different problem. The problem I and many others have had is it being totally dead when you try to fire up when the engine is hot and has been standing for a few minutes e.g. when at a petrol station. This mod sorted mine out completely though.

[spend]

It is simply introducing a relay into the starter circuit. Mr Beer seems to think it is something to do with resistance of wires when it is hot. I believe it is more to do with internal resistance in the starter solenoid & more significantly overloading the immobiliser circuit (relay for this is undoubtedly advantageous!), which of the 2 is more affected by heat/fatigue I can only guess (seem to be more alarm problems than starter motor failures tho ).

Dave

[David Beer]

spend said:

It is simply introducing a relay into the starter circuit. Mr Beer seems to think it is something to do with resistance of wires when it is hot.

Dave

Nope, not me ! I have only said a 12-13 amp circuit should not have a 6 amp drop through the wiring up to the footwell, where it joins Range Rover wiring to the solenoid. A hot solenoid may be "sticky" and there is not enough voltage to pull it in. So putting a relay back into the circuit( it was there but was bypassed) means there is not the 6 amp drop.

[Flintstone]

And it works extremely well too if I may say so.

[That Daddy]

Not meaning to be charlie big potatoes,but i must be a jammy bugger my car as never done the HOT START thing to me,and before anyone comments the (Bosch)starter looks as old as the hills,lucky i guess.

[paulathome]

I think that's asking for serious trouble That Daddy.
Paul.

[Ballistic Banana]

Mr.Beer Kindly shared the instructions for the Hot Start Mod HERE

BB

[LeoV8]

I would like to add to the many previous comments of gratitude for David Beer. He invented a solution to this very embarrasing and inconvenient problem, helps you with advice and sells it to you efficiently and very cheaply. Thanks.

[Paulgooner]

I have just bought the mod, for the price it seems very well made, and looks simple to fit. With all this rain not got round to doing it yet. Maybe this weekend. Mr beer is very helpful too

[mikchim]

if its not the hot start problem any ideas what it could be as described initialy it starts fine when cold but after a run it turns over very sluggish but usualy bursts into life ??? nothing serious i hope .

[David Beer]

You need an earth braid from the battery neg to the engine. You can enlarge the battery breather hole and poke it through, then onto the nearest bolt. Should do the relay mod anyway, its fine to have the hot start on a petrol forecourt, not straddled a level crossing.