Keep coolant temperature at 80 C max?
Keep coolant temperature at 80 C max?
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stefan1200

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98 posts

268 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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Hi all,

been reading the "Power Tune RV8" book by Des Hammill. It says that the coolant temp should be at 80 max to limit block expansion and thus avoiding the main caps loosening due to different expansion rates of the (cast iron) main caps and the (aluminium) block. My 1999 500 runs in the usual 70-90 degree range (normal road use, no track days)

Should I go for a Leven kit to lower the temp or leave it as it is?

Second question: Does the 500 engine have the 2 bolt main cap arrangement or is it crossbolted?

Many thanks,
Stefan

thenick

4,027 posts

243 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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Pretty sure its fine running at 90 degrees, but if you want it running 80 max, here's what I did:

-Flush coolant system and refill with new stuff
-Replace Otter switch with one that brings the fans on at 70 rather than 80
-Full decat (Stops the main cat acting like an under-bonnet radiator)

None of this was done because there was a problem, it used to sit at 90 in traffic and 70-80 on the road just fine. But when de-catting I thought it would be worth giving the coolant system a bit of TLC and it now runs at 70 on the road and 80 max!

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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I'm surprised it can do that without reference to the stat?

There isn't a stat I've seen that can go as low as 70, for the 80C the OP requires, you can get 74C variants and there is a 71C but I never found one with a large orifice. I would also suggest sticking some temp sensors in place of the block drain taps so you can measure the temps around the engine. Otter switches dont go very low, so you have to put them on the hot side of the rad, but its prob better to get an adjustable like Modwise use anyway. I reckon you will need the extra cores in your rad or an alloy version to keep it that low when crawling.

Dave

Edited by spend on Friday 17th August 22:33

RedCabbage

3,606 posts

263 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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My Otter switch and thermostat have been replaced with much lower rated items to keep the temp around 80c max. However it tends to put the fans on full chat most of the time, which is a bit annoying and can't be good for the motors. It could also be masking a more serious problem so I am going to revert to standard, monitor the temps and possibly fit the Modwise kit.

thenick

4,027 posts

243 months

Saturday 18th August 2007
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The switch I had fitted was done by Dave Batty as a preventative measure. He said they were off the very late model cars so maybe the se griffs or '01 model chims?? Either way they come on at about 70 - could be a 71 rated one? - But unlike redcabbage they aren't on unless the car is stationary and up to full heat. Though this could have a lot to do with the fact there are no cats so a lot more of the exhaust heat goes out the back rather than warming the engine bay. I also have a mini front number plate which is meant to help, though I fitted it because it looks better and can't say i've noticed a huge difference except at motorway speed when it sits at 65/70 in winter/summer. Maybe a modwise kit would be a better option in that case? I'm switching to an Emerald system soon though (as soon as Dave comes up with the price!) so can ditch the otter switch altogether and set the fans via the laptop!

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

308 months

Saturday 18th August 2007
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re cross bolting - no, not all are crossbolted. I doubt if there is much rhyme or reason to which are and which aren't, in true TVR fashion. My 96 500 isn't, but it has got pilot holes drilled where they go on some of the bosses.

stefan1200

Original Poster:

98 posts

268 months

Saturday 18th August 2007
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Thanks for the input,

as the temperature stays around 75 while cruising and goes up to 90 only in traffic (as might be expected), maybe I should go for an otter switch with a lower temp rating. Are they special TVR parts or could they be obtained elsewhere?

Many thanks,
Stefan

Markh

2,781 posts

306 months

Sunday 19th August 2007
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Of course there is still the problem that the temp guage is probably way off as well (mine reads 90, but in fact is really 82!)

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Sunday 19th August 2007
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Stefan,look at Spends profile for that info on the Otter switchesthumbupBLOODY WEATHERS CRAP HER AT THE MOfrown

neal1980

2,585 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd September 2008
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Thats interesting Moneypit. Did you actually see the slipped liner at all after this was found to be the cause?? Did you experience waterloss as well?

Neal

neal1980

2,585 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd September 2008
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I see I remember reading lots of posts from you now you had a string of bad luck..hope all is well now smile

So whats the final outcome did you have new block or repair tophats?? Are you all back up and working.

Neal