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I found a shop near my home that sells AVO's but doesn't know which one's I need for a 5.0 Chimaera. I know there's lots of posts about shock absorbers and honestly I've spent ages searching this morning without finding an answer, so...
Which model of adjustable AVO shock absorbers and springs should I be looking for to replace my Spax originals? Shocks are sold by length and diameter, but I don't want to have to take mine off to find out.
Has anyone paid for the direct TVR Spax replacements and knows what they cost?
Andy
Which model of adjustable AVO shock absorbers and springs should I be looking for to replace my Spax originals? Shocks are sold by length and diameter, but I don't want to have to take mine off to find out.
Has anyone paid for the direct TVR Spax replacements and knows what they cost?
Andy
instead of going to your local shop why not buy through any tvr independant? .. keeps the money in tvr circles that way, plus they'll alaedy know what to get you.
One word of warning, AVO still haven't got the TVR batch made , despite phoning twice a week I'm still waiting after 5 weeks for my order totalling over 1k pounds!! I'm rapidly losing patience with them but obviously they can afford to lose my business. doh!
One word of warning, AVO still haven't got the TVR batch made , despite phoning twice a week I'm still waiting after 5 weeks for my order totalling over 1k pounds!! I'm rapidly losing patience with them but obviously they can afford to lose my business. doh!
Not trying to take the bread from your table Jools - I have an ambitious deadline. Some of the threads I read were about long delays in mail order.
I've just got my car back after a lengthy spell in another TVR independent. I'd like to get the kit fitted before Castle Combe track day (12 days away) because my original springs are a bit tired and it's a bumpy circuit.
I didn't realise there was a TVR specific kit, or do you mean just the correct sizes for TVR's? I thought if I can go into a shop with cash (no names mentioned, but they're a racing car parts specialist actually at Castle Combe) & get them over the counter, I can be sure of fitting them in time. Like you say, mail order can be unreliable but it wouldn't matter if not for my 12 day deadline.
Before I regret buying standard kit in the longer term - what's the TVR set?
Cheers
Andy
I've just got my car back after a lengthy spell in another TVR independent. I'd like to get the kit fitted before Castle Combe track day (12 days away) because my original springs are a bit tired and it's a bumpy circuit.
I didn't realise there was a TVR specific kit, or do you mean just the correct sizes for TVR's? I thought if I can go into a shop with cash (no names mentioned, but they're a racing car parts specialist actually at Castle Combe) & get them over the counter, I can be sure of fitting them in time. Like you say, mail order can be unreliable but it wouldn't matter if not for my 12 day deadline.
Before I regret buying standard kit in the longer term - what's the TVR set?
Cheers
Andy
First of all, I have to declare an interest - I'm 'Mrs' Joospeed.
I'm fairly certain I'll regret posting this when I sober up, and if Joolz asks me to delete it I will, because we have a rule that his work is his business, and mine is mine, and we do not own eachother so the probability that he will be furious that I have expressed an opinion here is fairly high. I may well be on a yellow card for this. BUT I run approximately £23M worth of work for my employer, and I understand how business works, and I have a strong opinion on this matter which is based on wider experience than just Joolz' business.
Now it's very nearly midnight. And Joolz is still at work. The reason for that is that he spent about 3.5 hours today on the phone giving 'free' advice to customers (or more irritatingly people who never will be customers because all they want is his experience for nothing). Normally I don't mind this because I understand that you have to work long hours if you work for yourself (and Joo loves his work, and his customers come first), but every hour he spends telling someone (gratis) how to fix his own car is an hour that is not spent on fee-earning work. No offence to any of you (particularly loyal customers to whom I know Joolz doesn't begrudge a moment of time) but if you had your coat on to leave work at 1730 and someone asked you to stay til 2100 hours for nothing (or so that someone else could get paid), what would you say?
The Independents (not just Joolz) are more cost-effective than dealerships because they just charge for what they do, not for huge overheads. Sorry to be a pain, but if you have no intention of using an independent for work on your car, is it really honourable to ask them to give their hard-earned knowledge and time to contribute to someone else's business turnover and profit? If the people you are planning to spend money with are specialists, then they will advise you and sell you the right product. If not, then go to someone who does know, and do the decent thing by letting them make a profit on their expertise. It's safer for you in the long run anyway.
Anyway, getting off my drunken soapbox for a minute - even as Joolz' missus (as if I got any favours!), I'm in a queue for a suspension upgrade on my Griff 500. The manufacturers just can't keep up with demand. Unless you're lucky enough to pick up someone else's cancellation (I just missed one), you're going to have to wait for the kit. Ring round the independents (there are plenty of recommendations on PH) and you might just get a set. If not, I'd say it was worth waiting rather than paying for something that's not quite right.
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I'm fairly certain I'll regret posting this when I sober up, and if Joolz asks me to delete it I will, because we have a rule that his work is his business, and mine is mine, and we do not own eachother so the probability that he will be furious that I have expressed an opinion here is fairly high. I may well be on a yellow card for this. BUT I run approximately £23M worth of work for my employer, and I understand how business works, and I have a strong opinion on this matter which is based on wider experience than just Joolz' business.
Now it's very nearly midnight. And Joolz is still at work. The reason for that is that he spent about 3.5 hours today on the phone giving 'free' advice to customers (or more irritatingly people who never will be customers because all they want is his experience for nothing). Normally I don't mind this because I understand that you have to work long hours if you work for yourself (and Joo loves his work, and his customers come first), but every hour he spends telling someone (gratis) how to fix his own car is an hour that is not spent on fee-earning work. No offence to any of you (particularly loyal customers to whom I know Joolz doesn't begrudge a moment of time) but if you had your coat on to leave work at 1730 and someone asked you to stay til 2100 hours for nothing (or so that someone else could get paid), what would you say?
The Independents (not just Joolz) are more cost-effective than dealerships because they just charge for what they do, not for huge overheads. Sorry to be a pain, but if you have no intention of using an independent for work on your car, is it really honourable to ask them to give their hard-earned knowledge and time to contribute to someone else's business turnover and profit? If the people you are planning to spend money with are specialists, then they will advise you and sell you the right product. If not, then go to someone who does know, and do the decent thing by letting them make a profit on their expertise. It's safer for you in the long run anyway.
Anyway, getting off my drunken soapbox for a minute - even as Joolz' missus (as if I got any favours!), I'm in a queue for a suspension upgrade on my Griff 500. The manufacturers just can't keep up with demand. Unless you're lucky enough to pick up someone else's cancellation (I just missed one), you're going to have to wait for the kit. Ring round the independents (there are plenty of recommendations on PH) and you might just get a set. If not, I'd say it was worth waiting rather than paying for something that's not quite right.
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Well said 'Mrs Joolz'
In your support I for one would rather rely on the experience & advice of someone like Julian, and where ever possible part with money to support his efforts. However on the other hand not everybody lives near Chesterfield - they must have freedom of choice. I do support the concept that wherever possible they should support the people who enrich their table.
Primarily I would always use a reputable independant specialist - they talk good sense and give an excellent service - particularly Joolz!
In reading contributions that illustrate the "hard-earned knowledge" and expertise I would hope that readers would be encouraged to do business with experts - but there will always be freeloaders and cheapskates lurking - its a fact of life - for sure we will be one at some time.
An appreciative Joolz reader (and customer).
In your support I for one would rather rely on the experience & advice of someone like Julian, and where ever possible part with money to support his efforts. However on the other hand not everybody lives near Chesterfield - they must have freedom of choice. I do support the concept that wherever possible they should support the people who enrich their table.
Primarily I would always use a reputable independant specialist - they talk good sense and give an excellent service - particularly Joolz!
In reading contributions that illustrate the "hard-earned knowledge" and expertise I would hope that readers would be encouraged to do business with experts - but there will always be freeloaders and cheapskates lurking - its a fact of life - for sure we will be one at some time.
An appreciative Joolz reader (and customer).
hi guys .. well I read your post rude one .. tsh tsh!!! fully apperciate the sentiment though .. I often think the same thing although would never have put it into print, thing is many people don't appreciate what we do .. I sell AVO dampers, that's well known - they're cheap and cheeful and have a 2 year guarantee, they're a great intro into adjustable suspension and they're better than std fit TVR stuff (bilsteins excepted of course).
However what most probably don't know is that the TVR fitment AVO dampers I use are never fitted with std springs, even my AVO kit has been subjected to significant track time, just as I did 600 track miles proving the basic Nitron kit worked (all you people running the std Nitron cerbie tuscan kit from anywhere else are on my initial development spec - joospeed customers however have the choice of about 9 different nitron kits alone only available through me) , so I did the same with the AVO and teh Redline kit. Now you can go and buy the AVO dampers anywhere you want .. any number of places will be only too willing to take your money (one place I dealt with recently had them marked up by 150 percent!!) .. however as you said your springs are past their best, what are you going to do there? does the specialist at castle combe have a bespoke TVR kit they can do you? can they tell you what works and what doesn't? have they done a dedicated testing programme to prove the worth of what they offer? .. if they do then all well and good, but the chances are that you'll end up with something compromised.
Now my AVO kit is something like 550 pounds plus the dreaded, that's the price of the springs and dampers plus a bit for my development - the profit in there is minimal, I make a bit on the fitting of course but that's about it. Any of the independants will hopefully be able to sell you something similar .. ask them about their testing programme, who they used, where they did it, etc (I use a current GT racer, a current Porsche racer, a former touring car racer and a bloke who's a suspension adviser to minardi F1 team - and me of course ) so I'm pretty confident that what I end up with is fairly good. And that's what you pay for.
Just thought you'd like to know. Sorry if it sounds a bit like an advert Ted, but if you talk to any other independant then you'll see what they have to offer also.
and it's now 01-30 am.
However what most probably don't know is that the TVR fitment AVO dampers I use are never fitted with std springs, even my AVO kit has been subjected to significant track time, just as I did 600 track miles proving the basic Nitron kit worked (all you people running the std Nitron cerbie tuscan kit from anywhere else are on my initial development spec - joospeed customers however have the choice of about 9 different nitron kits alone only available through me) , so I did the same with the AVO and teh Redline kit. Now you can go and buy the AVO dampers anywhere you want .. any number of places will be only too willing to take your money (one place I dealt with recently had them marked up by 150 percent!!) .. however as you said your springs are past their best, what are you going to do there? does the specialist at castle combe have a bespoke TVR kit they can do you? can they tell you what works and what doesn't? have they done a dedicated testing programme to prove the worth of what they offer? .. if they do then all well and good, but the chances are that you'll end up with something compromised.
Now my AVO kit is something like 550 pounds plus the dreaded, that's the price of the springs and dampers plus a bit for my development - the profit in there is minimal, I make a bit on the fitting of course but that's about it. Any of the independants will hopefully be able to sell you something similar .. ask them about their testing programme, who they used, where they did it, etc (I use a current GT racer, a current Porsche racer, a former touring car racer and a bloke who's a suspension adviser to minardi F1 team - and me of course ) so I'm pretty confident that what I end up with is fairly good. And that's what you pay for.
Just thought you'd like to know. Sorry if it sounds a bit like an advert Ted, but if you talk to any other independant then you'll see what they have to offer also.
and it's now 01-30 am.
Oh dear, what have I done?
Might be appropriate to say that it was never intended to be a 'Gang up on Rat' response - it looks a bit that way, but unfortunately you just gave me a good feed line for my frustrations last night.
So, trying to be more helpful and answer the original question... I talked to someone recently who paid £600 for A PAIR of standard (non-adjustable) TVR dampers about 6 weeks ago (that is a pair, not a full set
). I'm assuming that would just factor up if you were buying the set (that was fitted btw). I'd say that if you're a track-day man and you had £1200 to spend, you'd get more 'bang per buck' from Nitrons. Guess what though... there's a waiting list for them!
None of this helps you much for Castle Coombe, does it? All I can suggest is that you have a ring round and see if any of the independents have any adjustables in; you might be lucky if someone's had a cancellation.
Might be appropriate to say that it was never intended to be a 'Gang up on Rat' response - it looks a bit that way, but unfortunately you just gave me a good feed line for my frustrations last night.
So, trying to be more helpful and answer the original question... I talked to someone recently who paid £600 for A PAIR of standard (non-adjustable) TVR dampers about 6 weeks ago (that is a pair, not a full set
). I'm assuming that would just factor up if you were buying the set (that was fitted btw). I'd say that if you're a track-day man and you had £1200 to spend, you'd get more 'bang per buck' from Nitrons. Guess what though... there's a waiting list for them! None of this helps you much for Castle Coombe, does it? All I can suggest is that you have a ring round and see if any of the independents have any adjustables in; you might be lucky if someone's had a cancellation.
raceboy said: Which campsite are you in Joolz/Rude? Feel free to pop over for a well deserved beer
Will probably bump in to you at the Flasher/CZ barbecue. We're hopelessly unprepared - so far we've got a tent, an airbed, a map, a can of deodorant, 2 cans of tyreweld, a handful of cable ties and some gaffer tape. Should cover most eventualities
rude girl said:Will probably bump in to you at the Flasher/CZ barbecue. We're hopelessly unprepared - so far we've got a tent, an airbed, a map, a can of deodorant, 2 cans of tyreweld, a handful of cable ties and some gaffer tape. Should cover most eventualities
Ok, thats you two sorted out.. What about the car, taking any spares?
It must a bugger for Joolz.. I turned up at about 11.30 one night last week after heading home from London to find the poor sod had only just left, (I thought my job took long hours
I try to keep the gassing and navel gazing about what I could do to the car to a minimum. Otherwise neither of us would get anything done.. Unless its over a
that is..
rude girl said:We're hopelessly unprepared - so far we've got a tent, an airbed, a map, a can of deodorant, 2 cans of tyreweld, a handful of cable ties and some gaffer tape.
You'll be fine, the 1st year we went we just had a borrowed tent, 2 sleeping bags, and entrance tickets, no camping pass, nothing, bought that down there
Are you in Houx?
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