Tyre/wheel recommendations for 18" Chimaera rims
Tyre/wheel recommendations for 18" Chimaera rims
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BryanWilton

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196 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Want to fit 18" rims to the Chim

What are the widest rims I can sensibly get on the front & rear without putting excessive wear on the steering(I have PAS)

Can you go wider than standard 7.5" rim on the back without problems?

I was thinking 225 on the front & as wide as possible on the rear (Tyre & rim)

What profile is best, is 35 too harsh, 40 better ride?


Thoughts please......

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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BryanWilton said:
Can you go wider than standard 7.5" rim on the back without problems?
255/35/18 on 9" rims works well on the rears.

WazzaL

960 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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JR said:
BryanWilton said:
Can you go wider than standard 7.5" rim on the back without problems?
255/35/18 on 9" rims works well on the rears.
yikes 9"!!!!

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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WazzaL said:
JR said:
BryanWilton said:
Can you go wider than standard 7.5" rim on the back without problems?
255/35/18 on 9" rims works well on the rears.
yikes 9"!!!!
Yep. The original rims were for 225 tyres and should really have been 8.5" for the 245 tyres. 9" is still only the same width as the original tyres.

WazzaL

960 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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scratchchin Hmmm. Best start wearing down my current tyres...

Just need to find a few decent roundabouts tonight.

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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WazzaL said:
scratchchin Hmmm. Best start wearing down my current tyres...

Just need to find a few decent roundabouts tonight.
Make the most of the good weather.

WazzaL

960 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Clearly sir, your definition of good weather differs greatly from mine..

It's p!ssing it down here!

JR

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288 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Sorry, it's hot and sunny here in Manchester.

BryanWilton

Original Poster:

196 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Can't I go up to 265 on the back on a 9" rim?
Is the ride on a 35 profile ok?

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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BryanWilton said:

Can't I go up to 265 on the back on a 9" rim?
Yes you can, http://www.toyo.co.uk/productdetail.php?identity=p... What are you trying to achieve? You may need to alter your bodywork since not all cars have exactly the same bodywork and the springs and dampers vary considerably. A 265/35/18 is no bigger a diameter than the original Chimaera rear of 225/55/16 but it is wider and may scrub the wheel arch etc.

Assuming that you keep the rolling radius the same then larger wheels will: Downside: - cost more, have more expensive tyres, perform worse in the wet, perform worse on bumpy roads, be more susceptible to tram lining, increase the weight of the car, increase the unsprung weight, produce a harsher ride, increase the rotating unsprung weight (second moment of inertia) and be more liable to scuffing on kerbs when parking. On the plus side they should: - prevent the tyre from distorting thus giving greater cornering grip in the dry and on smooth roads, be more direct giving greater steering feel and control, have less tyre wall flex (thus reducing both heat and fatigue and be better for long high speed journeys) and they should look good. Perhaps most of all they allow you to use top quality (UHP) rubber.

Larger wheels will effectively increase the spring rates and fitting lower section tyres with less sidewall flex can make the car more sensitive to suspension geometry changes.

We also know that if a car was set up for one wheel size then by increasing the wheel diameter, keeping the same rim and tyre widths and the same rolling radius then the matematical advantages are not as much as the disadvantages, even after minimising them by adjusting the suspension set-up; as long as the car's weight and cornering speed are not enough to mean that the tyre rolls onto its sidewall causing sidewall scrub during cornering.

The real world isn't always as clear though. For the Griff/Chim cars it appears to be simple: if you fit 16" or 17" wheels all round then this allows you to fit bigger front brakes, higher performance tyres such as GSD3s, and rims usually more suited to the tyre widths; this appears to have been shown by quite a few to outweigh the disadvantages.

BryanWilton

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196 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd August 2007
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Thanks for advice & link to chart, very useful

Think I'd rather go as wide as possible without possible risk of involving altering bodywork, etc
Would that be a 255 or just have to stick to 225's I already have on rear?

I believe I can fit 225's on the front as some of the last Chim 500's (PAS) had them fitted?

JR

14,332 posts

288 months

Friday 24th August 2007
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The Chim started off with 205/60/15 on the front to make it softer than the Griff. You could fit this size or 205/55/15, 225/50/15 and 215/50/15, all of which have been used. The biggest problem is tyres; this is two fold, firstly finding tyres in the correct speed rating and then secondly finding good quality tyres. Practically 225/50/15 are easiest to source, then 205/55/15 are a little harder with 205/60/15 and 215/50/15 in UHP rubber near on impossible. Generally the PAS cars had the wider rubber but this was not a hard and fast rule.

Which tyre sizes are you considering?

richy759

227 posts

233 months

Friday 24th August 2007
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Just thought i'd throw in my 98 500 chim has 225's on the front.
Rich

BryanWilton

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233 months

Friday 24th August 2007
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I really wany 18" rims with 35 or 40 profile

BryanWilton

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Friday 24th August 2007
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Cheers for that Rich
Forgot to say 18" front & rear, 225's on the front & the widest rims/tyres you can fit on the back without potential bodywork issues

JR

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288 months

Friday 24th August 2007
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That's clearer. Do you want to have exactly the same wheels front and rear?

richy759

227 posts

233 months

Friday 24th August 2007
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I have 225 (15 inch) fronts 245(16 inch) rears.

Rich

Edited by richy759 on Friday 24th August 16:08

BryanWilton

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Friday 24th August 2007
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Yes, I think it would look better (Hopefully)

BryanWilton

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Friday 24th August 2007
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Cheers Richy, at least I know I can go to at least 245
Do you know what width your rims are?

BryanWilton

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Friday 24th August 2007
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I meant same diameter wheels front & rear not same width