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V8 GRF said:
Sportmotive had a piece in Sprint this month announcing that they will be supplying and fitting engines and gearboxes from early 2008. DIY kits or full installations
Thanks,do you know what gearbox they are going to use.
IMHO this is a far better route to take rather than SC,turbos,rover5.4engines etc.
Hope it works out for Sportmotive, just surprised no other TVR garage has offered this before now.
SLOWER said:
V8 GRF said:
Sportmotive had a piece in Sprint this month announcing that they will be supplying and fitting engines and gearboxes from early 2008. DIY kits or full installations
Thanks,do you know what gearbox they are going to use.
IMHO this is a far better route to take rather than SC,turbos,rover5.4engines etc.
Hope it works out for Sportmotive, just surprised no other TVR garage has offered this before now.
ray_von said:
Where does the 7k come from? Is that how much you would want to pay?
I wish, I just cannot see joe bloggs paying more than that.I was under the impression sportmotive had done some great business and got a top deal for the parts needed.
If not I can't see it selling in big numbers.
SLOWER said:
15k
why not just detune it to about 360/380BHP and use the T5 box.
that would keep prices down, If its going to cost more than 7k all in sportmotive have no chance.
The reality is the big word WARRANTY!! and if a garage is doing it for you they have to offer this, now bearing this in mind we would have to supply a brand new engine, buying a second hand one and rebuilding it would cost more, a tko gearbox or something similar again new, prop, new exhaust system, clutch, water pipes to be spiecially made not just pipes put together with jubilee clips, somekind of management system omex etc...... 
why not just detune it to about 360/380BHP and use the T5 box.
that would keep prices down, If its going to cost more than 7k all in sportmotive have no chance.
7K you have got to be kidding me, you would bearly do it for that if you bought everthing yourself and it was all secondhand, and you fitted it all.
ray_von said:
SLOWER said:
I wish, I just cannot see joe bloggs paying more than that.
Joe Bloggs wont be getting one then. I think you'd struggle to get a Rover 5 litre for £7k, I'm sure Rob could confirm/denyEdited by ray_von on Wednesday 12th December 20:22
you can get a Rover 500 for £1.5k
Edited by SLOWER on Wednesday 12th December 20:26
I looked into this years ago and was very enthusiastic about it as were a number of people on the BB but as Rob says, it can't be done on the cheap if using new parts and there's no way I'd offer a conversion using a used engine unless the customer had supplied it. Then there would be all sorts of little things to change as none of these engines are a true drop in unit.
£7k will never happen. Best price I came up was something around £12k when Jellison was contemplating his conversion and back then there were still a few unknowns, since sorted. An ls transplant has to be seen as a long term commitment. The initial investment is high.
Boosted.
£7k will never happen. Best price I came up was something around £12k when Jellison was contemplating his conversion and back then there were still a few unknowns, since sorted. An ls transplant has to be seen as a long term commitment. The initial investment is high.
Boosted.
TVR moneypit said:
ray_von said:
SLOWER said:
you can get a Rover 500 for £1.5k
I spoke to John Eales a few weeks back, enquiring about a 350bhp 5.2 lump. It was a five figure sum, plus rebuilds every 50'000 or so miles.
I really cant see a reliable, accurate alternative to the LS / TKO600 conversion.
Yes the price is high, but for that sort of money you are getting a reliable powerplant, (that really does make the numbers), and box, capable of 100'000 with ease.
Does anyone have a link to that stateside outfit that can supply low mileage LS's? Some sort of breakers yard I think?
The Conversion will be worth more than the car, can Chim/Griff owners afford that. I don't think so.
As someone with a John Eales 5.2 V8 (albeit now supercharged to 525 bhp) powered Wedge and an LS1 in a Cerbera....
There is no cheap way of getting to 350-400 bhp. Sure the LS1 engine is cheaper but the final cost is more than getting a John Eales special that drops into place. In one case, the engines is cheaper but the fitting work is extensive and the list of bits needed to be modified or replaced is very large indeed. With the other, is the engine is more expensive but fitting is a doddle.
You pays your money and takes your choice...
There is no cheap way of getting to 350-400 bhp. Sure the LS1 engine is cheaper but the final cost is more than getting a John Eales special that drops into place. In one case, the engines is cheaper but the fitting work is extensive and the list of bits needed to be modified or replaced is very large indeed. With the other, is the engine is more expensive but fitting is a doddle.
You pays your money and takes your choice...
Saw these at www.gmv8engines.com brand new LS 2 for £3800 LS7 for £8700, don't know about VAT or if the engine comes with all the bits shown in pictures though.
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