Removing Chimaera body in small garage
Removing Chimaera body in small garage
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Parry

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4 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Hi All, Please can anyone help me. I am in the middle off replacing my front wish-bones, Bushing and upgrading my brakes BUT the more i look underneath the car the more i would like to remove the body and get the chassis back up to scratch, So can anyone give me some advice. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks Simon

P.S i would prefer to leave the engine in place if possible

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Parry said:
Hi All, Please can anyone help me. I am in the middle off replacing my front wish-bones, Bushing and upgrading my brakes BUT the more i look underneath the car the more i would like to remove the body and get the chassis back up to scratch, So can anyone give me some advice. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks Simon

P.S i would prefer to leave the engine in place if possible
Perfectly do-able.
Lift the body off outside the garage leaving all the running gear in place and the roll the chassis in to strip it down....or lift the body off the car inside the garage and use two large peices of wood to support the body.

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Parry said:
Hi All, Please can anyone help me. I am in the middle off replacing my front wish-bones, Bushing and upgrading my brakes BUT the more i look underneath the car the more i would like to remove the body and get the chassis back up to scratch, So can anyone give me some advice. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks Simon

P.S i would prefer to leave the engine in place if possible
Mail me and I'll send yot details of what you need to dowink

Parry

Original Poster:

4 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Hi Jon, Here is my email Thanks for any helping tips

ETA remove email addy for you as jellison now has it and the spambots will be after it in a flash wink BB

Edited by Ballistic Banana on Thursday 17th January 18:44

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Parry said:
Hi Jon, Here is my email ******yahoo.co.uk Thanks for any helping tips
Cool sent my mail - reply and I'lll do it v.soon.

I'd remove your mail address from the thread (I have it).

Jelly

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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On a Griff you can do a 2" body raise in a single garage leaving the exhausts/brakes/looms in place. It's not nice, but it can be done as I'm half way through it at the moment.

I don't know if it actually saves any time leaving the body in situ but if you've got nowhere to put it it's a viable solution.

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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To do this you really need to drop the exhaust and the headers other wise not really do-able.

Simon - as per my mail will give 6 - 8" easy with the loom attached - just be careful.

Good luck.


TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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jellison said:
To do this you really need to drop the exhaust and the headers other wise not really do-able.

Simon - as per my mail will give 6 - 8" easy with the loom attached - just be careful.

Good luck.
To do this you don't need to drop the exhaust, I'm actually doing it now.




jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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drop the headers and disconnect the steering rack (at the swivel under the wing and you can get 3x that)wink

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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jellison said:
drop the headers and disconnect the steering rack (at the swivel under the wing and you can get 3x that)wink
The rack is disconnected on mine, you can't get the body clear of the outriggers with it connected. It's the headers that prevent any further raising but it's definitely do-able without disturbing them.

Like I say, it's tight and debatable if it's actually any quicker when you take everything into consideration but it's another option if you're painting/maintaining outriggers.

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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TheGriffalo said:
jellison said:
drop the headers and disconnect the steering rack (at the swivel under the wing and you can get 3x that)wink
The rack is disconnected on mine, you can't get the body clear of the outriggers with it connected. It's the headers that prevent any further raising but it's definitely do-able without disturbing them.

Like I say, it's tight and debatable if it's actually any quicker when you take everything into consideration but it's another option if you're painting/maintaining outriggers.
If you have done to the trouble of undoing the other 28 body bolts and the rack you should really takle the headers off - bit pointless going this far if you don't may as well do a proper job.

PurpleV8

137 posts

246 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Are “Headers” the same as Exhaust Manifolds?

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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jellison said:
TheGriffalo said:
jellison said:
drop the headers and disconnect the steering rack (at the swivel under the wing and you can get 3x that)wink
The rack is disconnected on mine, you can't get the body clear of the outriggers with it connected. It's the headers that prevent any further raising but it's definitely do-able without disturbing them.

Like I say, it's tight and debatable if it's actually any quicker when you take everything into consideration but it's another option if you're painting/maintaining outriggers.
If you have done to the trouble of undoing the other 28 body bolts and the rack you should really takle the headers off - bit pointless going this far if you don't may as well do a proper job.
Why? What can't be accessed using my method?

I'll give you a clue, you won't know because you've never actually tried using this method, have you?

MPETT

969 posts

236 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Hi,

If you want to see a full body off, I'm in Farnham Surrey. Took mine off this weekend and in process of cleaning up chassis for painting and rewelding.

Martin

hiltonig

3,153 posts

238 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Mr Griff any pictures u could share

deeping is quiet at the moment !!!

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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TheGriffalo said:
jellison said:
TheGriffalo said:
jellison said:
drop the headers and disconnect the steering rack (at the swivel under the wing and you can get 3x that)wink
The rack is disconnected on mine, you can't get the body clear of the outriggers with it connected. It's the headers that prevent any further raising but it's definitely do-able without disturbing them.

Like I say, it's tight and debatable if it's actually any quicker when you take everything into consideration but it's another option if you're painting/maintaining outriggers.
If you have done to the trouble of undoing the other 28 body bolts and the rack you should really takle the headers off - bit pointless going this far if you don't may as well do a proper job.
Why? What can't be accessed using my method?

I'll give you a clue, you won't know because you've never actually tried using this method, have you?
What I am saying (and of course I have done this - the while hog), just do not see the point of lifting it 2 - 3" as that will get you to a fair bit of stuff but assess will be so tight and fiddly, if the headers (yep the part of the exhaust attached to the engine come off the body can go up A LONG WAY - easiliy twice what you are saying - this allows you to get to alot more and alot easier.).

No that is not rust it is some sticky crap on the top rails. No you do not need the engine out (I just diod not want it anymorewink, but the header off will have it able to go up the same amount as here.






Trying to help here......

andy-w

1,987 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Jellison - How come you had the body off? That chassis looks fine...?

I would go full body lift every time...!!!
Saves crawling around on the floor but then each to their own!!!

jellison

12,803 posts

307 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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andy-w said:
Jellison - How come you had the body off? That chassis looks fine...?

I would go full body lift every time...!!!
Saves crawling around on the floor but then each to their own!!!
Yes my body was in very good nick, but alot of surface cracking of the paint and surface rust starting to appeal (I think the car had lived outside for at least a few years before I got it and built a garage to house it.

I had the engine out for opbvious reasons - check my Profilewink Had a 10 day window waiting on some parts so decide that it really should be done to be up to the same std as the Chevy Conversion.



Garage longe enough for Chim and a Real Mini with 6" between front middle and back. Mini Gone now - Chim in March (maybe).

E1DJH

8,546 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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jellison said:
Parry said:
Hi All, Please can anyone help me. I am in the middle off replacing my front wish-bones, Bushing and upgrading my brakes BUT the more i look underneath the car the more i would like to remove the body and get the chassis back up to scratch, So can anyone give me some advice. Any help/advice would be great. Thanks Simon

P.S i would prefer to leave the engine in place if possible
Mail me and I'll send yot details of what you need to dowink
Hi John,
I'd be interested in seeing what is involved if you could mail me too please.
I doubt if i could get the chassis done under my current insurance claim wink
I've PM'd you with my address

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

269 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Jellison,

To do a "proper" job the whole car needs stripping down and the chassis should be blasted then galvanised... Anything else isn't a "proper" job IMO.

The point about the 2" raise is it is an alternative method that allows chassis maintenance with the bare minimum of facilities in a very tight space with limited clearance under the car and zero external storage.

The purpose of the exercise is to allow owners the choice of methods to maintain their P&J depending on what suits. It's not about doing it your way necessarily. This method allows a single person working alone to do the entire job with nothing more sophisticated than three jacks, some wooden blocks and a bit of patience.

It is an arse to do, but it demonstrates that it can be done. It's also possible to weld in new outriggers using a 2" lift.